Questions tagged [fall-of-man]
the event of Adam and Eve rebelling against God
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What is the “desire” to rule by Eve : A prophecy or a curse?
Genesis 1:6
6 To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your
husband, and he will rule ...
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Any radical transformation in case of incarnation without fall?
There are some reasons considered by the Catholic Church to assume the Incarnation even without the Fall. Simply speaking, Jesus would come even if Adam and Eve would not have eaten the apple.
There ...
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The fall was part of God's plan?
@JBH pointed out in the comments within *Could* Adam and Eve have children before the fall? that on the latter day saints website it states that
The fall is an integral part of Heavenly Father's ...
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*Could* Adam and Eve have children before the fall?
2 Nephi 2:23 states
And they would have had no children; wherefore they would have
remained in a state of innocence, having no joy, for they knew no
misery; doing no good, for they knew no sin.
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Where does Augustine say that Adam and Eve were in Eden for just six hours before sinning?
In Calvin's Commentary on Genesis, he spends some time dealing with the question of how long Adam and Eve were in the garden of Eden together before they sinned. He writes:
The opinion has been ...
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From a Calvinist perspective, if Adam refused the fruit what would happen to their descendants?
And the woman saw that the tree was good to eat, and fair to the eyes, and delightful to behold: and she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave to her husband who did eat. Genesis 3:6
What ...
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How do Mormons view events like the Holocaust considering that they view Adam's fall as a move forward?
In Christianity in general, a common view of Adam's transgression has been that it was something bad that resulted not just in a loss of something good.
Among the consequences of Adam's ...
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How do proponents of Original Sin support a strictly literal interpretation of Genesis
Many modern theologians who adhere to the doctrine of original sin are often proponents of the claim that Genesis is to be interpreted strictly literally (most strictly as a 7 day creation of a young ...
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Why did so many early church fathers say that sex was a consequence of the Fall?
According to an Orthodox that replies to someone else in an exchange regarding marital sex, he states "remember the words of Psalm 50" (Psalm 51 in Masoretic-based Bibles):
I was conceived in ...
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Were we to remain in the Garden of Paradise forever if Adam had not sinned?
I read this statement from the Catholic resource. Q. 255
A. We were not to remain in the Garden of Paradise forever even if
Adam had not sinned, but after passing through the years of our
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Is the emotion of sexual passion a result of the fallen state? (Catholic perspective)
I found very good information on this site where the author logically and according to the Catholic teaching explains certain parts of sexual behavior. I agree and practice what is written, just in ...
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According to Mormons, why did God make Eve's childbearing painful?
This question is about the following explanation from this page at lds.org:
“If Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would
have remained in the garden of Eden. And all ...
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What are some sources of March, 25th being the date of the creation of the world, or of the creation of Adam and Eve, or of their disobedience?
As per title, I read -- in a very uninformed way -- of these traditions, among many others, in regards to March, 25th:
A) it would be the date of the creation of the world
B) it would be the ...
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What is the biblical basis for the belief that man is no longer made in God's image?
According to an Adrian Rodgers radio broadcast man is no longer born in God's image due to the Fall. What is the biblical support for this assertion?
The broadcasts are archived here; the one I heard ...
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Creation, Fall, Redemption (Restoration/New Creation): Who said it first?
Who is the author who first described the biblical metanarrative of scripture as Creation, Fall, Redemption -- and some include Restoration or New Creation?
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How could Adam and Eve lose their just standing before God if it was given to them as a Grace and not earned?
I have often heard pastors, internet preachers especially, repeat that, "We did nothing to earn our salvation and there is nothing that we can do to lose it" or something to that effect. These are ...
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According to Ravi Zacharias's apologetic argument, how could love have existed prior to the fall?
Ravi Zacharias explained in a Q&A (14:50) that for true love to exist between God and man, the current creation is the only possible way for it to exist. He gave four possible examples of creation,...
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Original Sin as described in The Poem of the Man-God
How do the teachings of the Catholic Church regarding the nature of Original Sin conflict with the (alleged) private revelations of Maria Valtorta, as documented in her book The Poem of the Man-God?
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In Catholic teaching, what specific actual sinful act did Adam and Eve commit, and what level of authority can be applied to this teaching?
What I am asking
What does Roman Catholic theology hold to be the nature of the original sin? If we consider the Tree of Knowledge, its fruit, and Adam and Eve partaking of it as all being metaphors,...
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Adam and Eve Clothed in Light Before the Fall - Origin of Teaching?
I've stumbled multiple times across the claim that Adam and Eve were clothed in light before the fall, and afterward they saw their nakedess not merely as a new form of enlightenment ("Suddenly I feel ...
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Who was the first to reject the historicity of Adam?
Since the nineteenth century the early chapters of Genesis have been very controversial. For some issues, like the age of the earth, it is well established that there have been many different ...
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Does Young Earth Creationism teach that Adam and Eve only had a concept of morality after the fall?
Does Young Earth Creationism teach that Adam and Eve only had a concept of morality after the fall, once they had eaten from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil?
If so, would they have been ...
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Do any theologians argue that in the Fall, Adam sacrificed himself out of love for Eve?
I've heard a few Christians say, perhaps half-jokingly, that Adam only ate the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden because he realized that it was the only way for him to stay with Eve. By this ...
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What prominent Christian thinkers (if any) held to polygenism and if so how did these thinkers view original sin? [duplicate]
Have any influential or well known (be it in scholastics or in media) Christian thinkers express views that the first 'couple' was 'couples' (polygenism) and if so, how did they reconcile this ...
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According to Calvinists, how could Adam and Eve fall? How could Satan fall?
Under Calvinism, men under grace are guaranteed to choose God and be saved.
If God's holy influence is so convincing, that it is impossible for free thinking creations to choose against it, why did ...
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Do Young Earth Creationists believe that insects, microorganisms, and animal cells died before the Fall?
As explained in answers to other questions,1 2 young-earth creationists (YECs) believe that there was no animal death prior to the Fall. They accept that plants must have "died," since man and now-...
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Did the forbidden fruit make us wise? [closed]
The serpent said so. The gnostics said so. Many others say so. But what does Christians say? And how do they interpret the bible?
In my Swedish translation it simply states that Eve gained wisdom, ...
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What is the Biblical basis for the belief that God foreordained the fall of Adam and Eve?
I was reading the other day and I came across these verses
But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of ...
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Why does childbirth still hurt? [closed]
I am wondering the following: In Genesis, 3.16, it is quite clear that God multiplies the pain of childbirth, in order to punish Eve (and all women) for eating the forbidden fruit.
So, yes, this ...
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Was Cain a descendant of the serpent, through Eve?
In an article by Ben Heath titled Sex Affair in the Garden of Eden, he claims that the sin for which God expelled Adam and Eve from the garden was sexual intercourse with the serpent.
Heath goes on ...
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In Mormonism, how is the doctrine of Adam & Eve inability to have children prior to the Fall explained?
Inspired by this answer to a previous question, in which the answerer stated:
"For example, the Book of Mormon adds the belief that Adam and Eve could not have children before the Fall."
Supported ...
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Were humans once angels? [closed]
Are humans fallen angels who are being given the chance to earn their place in heaven again?
I was reading somewhere that this is true. The source gave no scripture references, however. Please give ...
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Why can't there be another fall?
Some disagree on whether a Christian in this life may fall utterly and lose or forfeit eternal life. However, most Christians do agree that after death, the Christian is eternally secure in heaven (...
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What Christian groups believe sex was the original sin, and not disobedience?
There is a story in the Bible that Adam and Eve ate the fruit and thus sinned against God. But other religions, including some Christians, describe that they were having intercourse and that's why God ...
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Does “faith” enable “love”?
Romans 4:16 says: Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace…
In this verse it appears that “faith” enables “grace”. The case could be made that the initial breach with God was one of ...
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What caused the Fall of Mankind?
Was the fall initiated by a transgression of faith, because man trusted the word of the serpent more than the word of God, or was it a transgression of God’s law (an act of disobedience)?
Do ...
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Why couldn't Adam and Eve keep both commandments? [closed]
I hope this question is unique here, but I assure you I have searched and have not yet seen it. (This question is close, but not quite the same.)
Adam and Eve were given two commandments: 1) Multiply ...
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Why is the curse of original sin not specific to humans?
From what I learned in church the whole world "fell" after Adam sinned.
Now the typical question is why should everyone have to pay the price and is usually answered by we would have done the same if ...
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Why did God make garments of skin for Adam and Eve when they had already made clothing for themselves? [closed]
Immediately after Adam and Eve sinned, we are told that they made clothing for themselves.
Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together ...
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Did God create Adam and Eve with free will and knowledge of right and wrong (good and evil)? [closed]
I just want to confirm based on scripture if God made Adam and Eve with both free will and knowledge of good and evil (right and wrong) or if one came after the other when they ate the forbidden fruit?...
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What arguments do scholars present for historicity of the fall?
What arguments and writings have been used to defend the Genesis account of the fall as a historical event? Is there evidence apart from the writings in Genesis that man was at one time not fallen?
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Did God create man to be gods themselves? [closed]
Genesis 1:26-28 says:
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the ...
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How does one reconcile the idea that physical disability is the result of sin with Exodus 4:11?
I believe that disability is a result of Adam and Chavva's sin.
Here's the logic behind my reasoning.
Adam and Chavva were not disabled according to scripture.
Adam and Chavva committed sin.
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Before the fall of Adam, did anything die? [closed]
This seems like a simple question, but I cannot find a clear answer. The book of Genesis (1:29,30), implies that Adam just ate "plants and herbs". So I think it is safe to assume animals were not ...
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Sin and Animal Suffering before the fall?
This question, most likely, has the presumption of theistic evolution or at least 'old-earth' creationism, however answers without that presumption are welcome.
Suffering and pain exist in our world ...
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Original sin and its consequences [duplicate]
Possible Duplicate:
How could a loving, just, merciful God have created such an unfair test for humans?
It's said that death came into the world due to the primary sin of Adam and Eve.
But if ...
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According to reformed theology, how does the fall glorify God?
What this question is not about:
This question is NOT about:
Is God omniscient (all knowing?), omnipotent (all powerful?) and benevolent? Then if God foresaw the first sin, and had the power to stop ...
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What is the purpose of Satan's fall from a reformed perspective? [closed]
Did God, in His omnipotence, allow Satan to fall from grace have something to do with His allowing Adam and Eve to fall which provides first hand knowledge to the elect angels / elect humans in a way ...
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Is it known whether Adam and Eve had the ability to experience physical pain before the fall? [closed]
Did Adam and Eve have the ability to experience physical pain before the fall? It seems that there is no indication in Genesis of physical pain in the Garden of Eden.
Is this issue mentioned anywhere ...
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Was the fall of man inevitable? [closed]
Given that:
Life of man continued in eternity in Eden
During this time the tree of knowledge was present
At any given point in time, man had the free will to make the choice: I will eat the forbidden ...
