Ok related to this questions Will people in hell be able to remember people in heaven? , either some individuals or indeed whole groups believe in some form of (for lack of a better term) "heavenly amnesia" where you have no memory of your life once you get into Heaven. Where did this idea come from? Is there any group that officially holds this position to be true, or is it some folklore. (I only say this because the first time I heard about it was from the old folk tale where death is trapped in a bag) As was expressed in the other question scripture refutes this, but there are groups out their that believe things other than the scripture and use them to explain away plenty of other things. How widespread is this idea?
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The Bible says that there is no sadness in Heaven, e.g. Revelation 21:4 "And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”
So a common argument goes: There is no sadness in Heaven. If I knew that this person I loved was in Hell that would certainly make me very sad. Therefore it must be that I won't remember them.
To the best of my knowledge there is no more specific Scriptural basis for this theory. And thus I think it's weak. I can easily think of other alternatives.
To take a personal example: My wife left me years ago. In my opinion, she made a real mess of her life, can't hold a job, gone through a series of men, etc. The kids and I feel sorry for her, but for the most part we basically say, "She did this to herself. This is the life she wanted." Okay, some of that is resentment for personal hurts. But if I was a perfect human being, would I being crying for her every day and being miserable because of what she's done to herself? Or at some point is it reasonable and normal to say, "I tried to help you, but you made your choices." This appears to be God's attitude toward sinners. Of course he went way further than I have ever gone for anybody, allowing himself to be tortured to death to save anyone who would accept his offer. But those that don't, eventually he says, "So be it." I think it is plausible that in Heaven we will have a perfect understanding of justice. People are in Hell because of choices they made.
That said, there is one scenario that does really disturb me. My mother once said, what happens if she gets to Heaven, she stands before the judgment seat of Christ and he says yes, you are among the saved. Then the next person comes up and Christ says, No, you are condemned. And then this person turns to her and says, You knew how to be saved, but you never told me?
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I doubt someone being dragged down to hell will have the presence of mind to accuse anyone who is saved. That's a silly superstition. They're going to be in shock to the point of being speechless. "And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless." (Matthew 22:12) Nor do I think God would allow it: he shall wipe away all tears Commented Mar 29, 2014 at 5:51
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What if it is not the person who asks, but Jesus himself: and adds to it "even after I told you to".– BYECommented Mar 29, 2014 at 16:21
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@davidbrainerd Well, I'm not going to argue much about the plausibility of a hypothetical scenario where so much is outside our knowledge. But when criminals are sentenced to death, sometimes they stand there speechless and in shock, and sometimes they scream curses at everyone around. Maybe that scenario is impossible ... but maybe not.– JayCommented Mar 31, 2014 at 13:23
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Is there any group that officially holds this position to be true, or is it some folklore
How widespread is this idea?
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Many conservative Christians believe this idea to be true. I am not aware of it being part of the statement of faith or creed or otherwise being an "official" doctrinal position of any denomination or other organized group, but I don't claim to know the official positions of every denomination on every issue. To the best of my knowledge, this is not a central tenet of any church's doctrine, i.e. many churches have a committed position on Biblical inerrancy, the virgin birth, celibacy of priests, etc, but I don't know of any committed to "amnesia about Hell".– JayCommented Jul 17, 2015 at 4:59