Timeline for According to Biblical Unitarians, what does it mean for Jesus to be the Son of God?
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| May 4, 2022 at 0:39 | vote | accept | Luke Hill | ||
| May 4, 2022 at 0:39 | history | bounty ended | Luke Hill | ||
| May 1, 2022 at 20:23 | comment | added | Only True God | @Lesley Yes. according to BUs usually, Jesus' life started with his conception in Mary. Prior to that He 'existed' in the sense of being part of God's plan. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 16:51 | comment | added | Lesley | Since BU's don't accept Jesus was God incarnate, that he came from heaven in order to become fully human, then did his life start with his conception in the womb of Mary? Prior to that he was just a concept in the mind of God the Father? I'm afraid I don't place much store in ancient Jewish literature. But thanks for your patience. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 15:42 | comment | added | Only True God | @MikeBorden BUs tend not to agree that the Christ = the Logos. John 1:14 is like saying "my idea for the cup became the cup." There is no big metaphysical issue. The plan for the cup informs and leads to and is reflected in the cup, but there is no identity in a straightforward sense being posited. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 15:40 | comment | added | Only True God | @Lesley Very important concept from the BU pov. This article is a start from the BU perspective 21stcr.org/commentaries/preexistence-overview/… There are both clear Biblical and extra-Biblical examples of it in ancient Jewish literature. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 14:27 | comment | added | Luke Hill | I will probably end up giving you the bounty - but I will wait just in case someone gives a better answer. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 11:51 | comment | added | Mike Borden | If Christ's pre-existence was only notional (John 1:1) would this mean that his involvement in the creation of all things (john 1:3) was only notional as well? Was only "notional" life in him (John 1:4)? | |
| May 1, 2022 at 11:50 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @steveowen It is too late for me to edit my comment so I deleted and replaced Jesus with Christ for you. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 11:48 | comment | added | Mike Borden | New question: christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/90895/… | |
| May 1, 2022 at 11:18 | comment | added | steveowen | Jesus is not part of John 1:1-3 Why, pray tell do people read whatever they want into the word of God? Jesus, obviously, by John's own inspired words, place Jesus only 2000 yrs ago. when the logos became flesh through Mary. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 7:57 | comment | added | Lesley | Thanks for the explanation, although I confess "notional pre-existence" is not a concept I've ever heard off. Is there any biblical support for that? | |
| May 1, 2022 at 7:10 | comment | added | Only True God | @Lesley The standard BU understanding of Jesus' pre-existence is notional, i.e., in the mind of God. Notional pre-existence is a well-established trope in ancient Jewish literature. | |
| May 1, 2022 at 7:09 | comment | added | Lesley | Does this mean Jesus did not pre-exist before Mary conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit? | |
| May 1, 2022 at 7:04 | history | answered | Only True God | CC BY-SA 4.0 |