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(Pardon the length - my original post was more concise, but wasn't clearly conveying my question.)

Background:

I am currently studying the Spiritual Disciplines at a Protestant seminary. For those unfamiliar with this term, I will give a very brief explanation. Paul instructs Timothy to:

discipline yourself for the purpose of godliness... For it is for this we labor and strive - 1 Timothy 4:7-10

For example, one Spiritual Discipline which is generally recognized among Protestant theologians is fellowship (or regular church attendance).

let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deeds, not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some - Hebrews 10:24-25

Basically the idea is that there are certain disciplines which followers of Christ are called to practice regularly. Despite the overwhelming witness from "Church Fathers" regarding the extreme importance of such disciplines, many Protestant theologians have called this the single greatest weakness in modern Protestantism. (Complete rejection of the doctrine of Spiritual Disciplines is a very modern position.) For the record, this is not "works-based salvation"; it is not "earning God's acceptance"; it is not church-mandated religion; it is simply a mature personal response to God's call for followers of Christ to be serious and intentional in following Him in all the ways which He has called us to follow Him.

Please note: My question has nothing to do with whether we should practice Spiritual Disciplines, or what value they have.

Confession as a Spiritual Discipline

One commonly recognized Spiritual Discipline is confession. The following passage is used to draw attention to the importance of confession.

Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much. - James 5:16

Although Scripture does not (to my knowledge) explicitly command us to make regular practice of this, the idea behind the Protestant doctrine of Spiritual Disciplines is that we practice right behavior intentionally and diligently, including things like confession.

Rejection of the Catholic implementation

My impression is that:

  • Luther took issue with how the Catholic Church viewed confession. (i.e. working your way into right standing with God, intermediary "Priests", etc.)

  • Luther did not take issue with confession as a practice (Discipline)

  • Luther rejected practices which he deemed heretical, while retaining others

  • Somewhere along the line, the practice of confession in Protestant churches took a completely different form than in Catholicism. (Perhaps when Luther's band split?)

  • Protestant theologians have long regarded confession as an important Spiritual Discipline

  • Modern Protestant believers are generally very undisciplined about confession

My question

I began to wonder if there might be aspects to the Catholic implementation which Protestants should have retained (from a Protestant perspective, of course). For example, Catholic confession seems to be any time, any sin (and indeed every sin), private, anonymous, etc. As a Protestant, this sounds like a very good idea - if Protestant churches had such a "booth" available, I wonder if Protestants wouldn't be more disciplined in this practice.

I became very curious... Why didn't Protestants just replace the "Priest" with a Pastor, guard against thinking of it as "working your way up to God", and retain the rest of these potentially valuable elements? Furthermore, if a Catholic Priest was a believer, and didn't think of confession as "earning salvation", what would be wrong (from a Protestant perspective) with Catholic confession in that case?

What I am specifically looking for:

  • When did the Protestant church reject the Catholic method of practicing confession? (Again, not the views, but the elements I just mentioned.)

  • Why were these methods originally rejected?

  • Are there any reasons why the Catholic methods should still be rejected today (according to Protestant doctrine)?

    • If not, would a Protestant find value in participating in Catholic confession today? (I am of course asking about the church's doctrinal position, not personal opinions.)
  • Are there modern Protestant groups which participate in confession at Catholic churches?

Thanks!

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  • Why do I have to confess my sins to a priest? Commented May 13, 2012 at 13:29
  • I'm sure someone who is actually Orthodox will have more detail but my understanding from Orthodox friends is that -- at least for the purposes of this question -- their practice of the sacrament is substantially the same as the Catholic practice. Externals are different (the Orthodox don't usually have confessionals [i.e., booths], for example) but the basic practice is much the same.
    – Ben Dunlap
    Commented May 15, 2012 at 14:44
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    Also I'm 97% certain that some wings of the Anglican Communion practice this discipline, although they might not consider it a sacrament. My understanding is that C.S. Lewis confessed to an Anglican priest, for example.
    – Ben Dunlap
    Commented May 15, 2012 at 14:46
  • Aaaaaa, bold blindness! I've seen flashing neon signs that were easier to follow. Seriously the usage of bold here is so distracting I can't concentrate on reading actual sentences. I would suggest that if words need this much formatting help in order to convey the right meaning, you would be better off using different words.
    – Caleb
    Commented Jan 8, 2013 at 9:37
  • Secondly, from what I can make out this should probably be split into at least 4 separate questions. The "when" and "why" questions as well as the one about current denominational practices can all stand on their own. Your question about whether it should still be rejected today could be asked, but you should be careful to keep it away from being a truth question.
    – Caleb
    Commented Jan 8, 2013 at 9:40

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As believers in the priesthood of all believers, it is not that Baptists (and many other Protestants) reject confession per se- it's that we reject the idea that said confession must be mediated through the local priest. Ideally, we should be confessing our sins in a "small group" type setting if we are being faithful to what Luther, Calvin, et. Al proscribed, but the truth is that most Peorestants (myself included) like to pretend that we need absolutely no "intermediary" between ourselves and God.

I say this not out of arrogance, but more as one who knows he should do real confession with a priest, but sadly justifies himself instead.

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    I find it odd that in dropping the required mediation of a local Catholic Priest, the entire practice seems to have been dropped along with it. Is this a "baby with the bathwater" situation?
    – Jas 3.1
    Commented May 13, 2012 at 15:35
  • In practice, yes. Commented May 13, 2012 at 22:44
  • I did appreciate this insight, but it didn't completely answer my question, so I'll have to forgo a vote on it for now.
    – Jas 3.1
    Commented May 14, 2012 at 15:38
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    @Jas3.1: Completely answering your question is an unreasonable expectation because it's got a dozen different things going on and would require a doctorate thesis on the subject to cover it all. Per my other comment, I think this will be much more useful broken down into pieces.
    – Caleb
    Commented Jan 8, 2013 at 9:42
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I think the most direct Bible verse on this subject is:

1 Tim 2:5 "For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus"

Christians do not need any mediator besides Jesus. Specifically, we do not need a priest to stand between us and Jesus. Jesus is the mediator. We don't need a mediator to speak to the mediator.

1 Peter 2:9 "But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;"

We are all priests, not just a special class.

Matthew 23:8-9 "But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ,and you are all brethren. Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven."

In context, I don't think Jesus meant that we should not call our male biological parent "father", but rather, that we should not consider anyone our spiritual father.

I don't know of anything in the Bible that commands or even suggests that we should confess our sins to a priest. The only instruction I can find to confess to anyone other than God is:

James 5:16 "Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much."

But this doesn't say anything about having a special class of priests to hear these confessions, much less a specific ritual of confession booths, penance, etc. It says to confess your sins to each other. The phrase "one another" implies that any believer might at one moment be confessing and the next moment hearing confessions.

Personally, I would ask the opposite question from yours: What scriptural basis do Catholics offer for requring people to go to a priest to confess?

The primary reason why Protestants reject confession today is the principle of Sola Scriptura: that all doctrine must ultimately originate in scripture, and we see no scriptural basis for this practice.

I guess a case could be made that it is a good thing to do even if it is not required by scripture. There are many things that are good to do even though they are not required. (Like, the Bible does not command me to brush my teeth, but that doesn't make tooth-brushing a sin.) But I would say that is wrong to tell Christians that it is required, or that confessing to a priest offers any benefit greater than confessing directly to Jesus, or confessing to another believer. Well, perhaps it could be argued that among the qualifications or training of priests is that they are better than the average Christian at hearing a confession in some practical way. So maybe you could argue that it is better to confess to a priest in the same sense that it is better to seek advice on auto repair from a professional mechanic rather than a random friend.

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  • Hi, I would like to know how you are able to post long comments when mine are limited to less than 1,000 characters? Commented Jun 21, 2023 at 2:37
  • Catholic confession is not just a discipline but a sacrament, a visible sign ordained by Christ for the forgiveness of sins and a source of divine grace to heal the wound of sin and fight against temptations. It is rooted in the truth of the Incarnation. Protestants confess their sins directly to God whom they do not see, but having someone given by Christ His own power to forgive sin makes it a visible sign of His mercy. It requires your bodily presence (i.e., your tongue, voice, and ears), the virtue of humility and firm purpose of amendment. It's about divine grace, not cheap grace.. Commented Jun 21, 2023 at 2:56
  • @Margarita I didn't post a "long comment". I posted an answer. As far as I know, the length of answers is not limited. The length of comments on answers IS limited. If you have a lot to say, you probably are posting your own answer rather than a comment on someone else's.
    – Jay
    Commented Jun 26, 2023 at 4:48
  • No, I wasn't singling you out, I'm sorry. It's just that when I post something, there's this thing that says "238 characters left" and anything beyond that, I have to delete. Yet I see long posts by other members. How do they do it? BTW what's the difference between "length of answers" and "length of comments on answers." They're both answers. Thanks, anyway. God bless you. Commented Jun 27, 2023 at 14:18
  • @Margarita Not complaining, nothing to apologize for. If you go to the bottom of a page and click "Add answer" or "Add another answer", then you have, as far as I know, no limit on length. If you go to someone else's answer and click "add comment", you are limited to, umm, I think 500 characters. You may think of the two as the same idea, both "answers", but the system thinks of them as two very different things. An "answer" is your own answer to the original question. A "comment" is something you have to say about someone else's answer.
    – Jay
    Commented Jun 28, 2023 at 21:21
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On the issue of confession as a Protestant who was a former Catholic I wish to say that we don't need an intermediary other than Jesus however that does not mean that confessing does not have healing psychotherapeutic value . The other 2 matters which raise doubts in my mind are John 20:23 and where Jesus tells Peter that he is his rock and goes on to as in John 20:23 say that the church or apostles have the authority to withhold forgiveness for sins , now I wonder who has inherited such power now and in what circumstances .

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    Commented Jan 8, 2013 at 9:47
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    Commented Jan 8, 2013 at 9:49
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I don't know of any Protestants that practice "Catholic confession," but you may or may not be implying "private confession." Dr. James Nestingen, a Lutheran seminary professor, is part of a North Dakota congregation that still practices private confession and absolution. Here is an link to talk by him on the topic, with some articles by other Lutherans.

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  • Anglicans can also have confessions in like manner.
    – user4060
    Commented Jun 29, 2013 at 17:10

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