Timeline for How does the Catholic Church reconcile its doctrine of a divine plan with the disorder and randomness of life?
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| Jun 24, 2023 at 16:31 | vote | accept | bujals | ||
| Jun 21, 2023 at 22:52 | answer | added | ellat | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jun 20, 2023 at 23:15 | answer | added | Peter Turner♦ | timeline score: 2 | |
| S Jun 20, 2023 at 17:02 | history | suggested | Isaac Middlemiss | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 20, 2023 at 16:15 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| Jun 20, 2023 at 14:56 | history | edited | bujals | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 20, 2023 at 14:55 | comment | added | bujals | The 'WE' in the phrase 'how can we reconcile' is equivalent to the Catholic Church for me. I can mentally detach myself from the Church, but I haven't yet been able to do so at the level of habits. | |
| Jun 20, 2023 at 14:25 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | @bujals says "I understand your position that my question is based on my opinion, not evidence.", presumably in response to the vote to close the question. Note that it's okay for questions to be opinion based, it's the answers that need evidence. In this case, someone thought that this question would generate a lot of answers that are opinionated rather than factual. (E.g. as you noticed, my not-an-answer doesn't provide any specific reference to Catholic teaching.) Rather than "… how can we reconcile …?", perhaps "How does the Catholic Church reconcile …?" should be the title. | |
| Jun 20, 2023 at 7:24 | history | edited | bujals | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
added: in this regard
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| Jun 20, 2023 at 7:23 | comment | added | bujals | "Not necessarily Catholic" - You're right, but is the Church's teaching conflicting or converging in this regard? | |
| Jun 20, 2023 at 7:16 | history | edited | bujals | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
added other fields such as philosophy, ethics
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| Jun 20, 2023 at 1:56 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | (Not necessarily Catholic, hence a comment, not an answer.) Chaos on the small scale doesn't preclude order on the large. — A container of gas contains billions of molecules bouncing in all directions at various speeds and every one is unpredictable; yet together and considered as a single system that gas is extremely predictable (Boyle's Law). — In a cattle drive, up to 10,000 head of cattle are herded up to 500 miles. The route and the behaviour of the herd along the trail are very predictable, but the individual cattle have chaotic behaviour. — Why can't God's plan work that way too? | |
| Jun 19, 2023 at 21:01 | history | edited | bujals | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
remove: often seems to be
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| Jun 19, 2023 at 20:43 | comment | added | bujals | I understand your position that my question is based on my opinion, not evidence. Indeed, my perspective might be subjective. But isn't that the nature of most questions concerning faith and religion? If so, how could we better understand these seemingly chaotic aspects of our lives in the context of the teachings of the Catholic Church? | |
| Jun 19, 2023 at 19:01 | comment | added | bujals | However, I'm looking for hard scientific evidence that life is ordered. | |
| Jun 19, 2023 at 18:09 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jun 19, 2023 at 17:54 | comment | added | Nigel J | The question speaks of the teaching that everything that exists has purpose, then questions that teaching on the basis that 'life ... seems to be unordered'. Thus the question is based upon opinion, not evidence. | |
| Jun 19, 2023 at 15:35 | comment | added | Isaac Middlemiss | Since you've essentially scoped this to Catholics I won't make this an answer, but the short version is A: Life only ever appears to be random, nothing happens without God's foreknowledge and planning; B: Yes, sin and our free choices have consequences, which can and do affect the innocent. | |
| Jun 19, 2023 at 8:19 | history | asked | bujals | CC BY-SA 4.0 |