Timeline for A problem with Purgatory: How could Jesus say what he did to the repentant criminal on a cross next to him if Purgatory existed?
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Feb 9, 2022 at 14:39 | comment | added | Mr. Bond | @ken I thought I was addressing you but instead it was Peter Turner posted, "Here's and answer I didn't expect." "There's a legend associated with St Demas/the good thief who repented etc. A legend is defined as: "a story from the past that is believed by many people but cannot be proved to be true " That was my point. Secondly, he states: "The Blessed Virgin prayed for St. Dismas' conversion, his soul was softened, he repented of his sin, proclaimed his belief in Jesus and was saved that very day. So how does he know that Mary prayed for the thief? I see a lot of supposition but no facts. | |
Feb 8, 2022 at 18:59 | comment | added | qxn | @Mr.Bond - Can you be more specific? Which part is unauthenticated? And what do you mean by "unauthenticated"? | |
Feb 8, 2022 at 17:51 | comment | added | Mr. Bond | @Ken Please explain how this "legend/story" helps when a legend is unauthenticated? | |
Feb 8, 2022 at 15:34 | comment | added | qxn | @Anne - I put a clarifying note in the answer. No, "hell" here is not Purgatory, and neither is it eternal damnation. It could very well be "Abraham's bosom" as described by Jesus himself. It is the state of the blessed dead before the gates of Heaven were opened. | |
Feb 8, 2022 at 15:32 | comment | added | Anne | Surely Catholicism teaches a clear distinction between the realm of hell, and that of purgatory? They are not the same thing at all in Catholicism. The Encyclopedia I quoted says on hell that it is "the eternal place of punishment for all who do not believe and who refuse to repent". Paul is quoted as saying it is for eternal destruction, ruin and loss (p.602). There is nothing of God in it, so neither Christ nor that believing, repentant man would ever go there. Unbelievers under the earth will be resurrected to acclaim Christ before going to the lake of fire: Rev.20:11-15 - surely? | |
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