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S Nov 18, 2020 at 15:37 history suggested Ivan García Topete CC BY-SA 4.0
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Nov 18, 2020 at 14:13 comment added Graham @JBH Nice answer. As regards "part of the Plan", I've always liked the joke about the drowned man who says "God will save me", where God replies "I sent you a policeman, a fire crew and a lifeboat, what more did you want?" I don't think meekness is quite the answer - it's appropriate meekness which is important, being able to tell which fights are righteous and which ones are just driven by selfishness. A child moans "It's so unfair!" when they can't do what they want; an adult looks at the reasons and accepts unpleasant consequences where it's necessary.
Nov 18, 2020 at 9:33 comment added JBH @Lesley Let me suggest a perspective, though. We're not being persecuted in the traditional sense that I don't believe the government is trying to shut churches down (in this circumstance... but that's a different discussion and I agree with your concern that this could be used as an excuse). However, I think we shouldn't overlook Paul's use of the word "tribulation" (and I probably should have focused on that rather than "persecution" in my answer). These are certainly trying times - but those are part of the Plan, too.
Nov 18, 2020 at 9:02 comment added Lesley Yes, I agree Christians should obey the law and no, we are not being persecuted. Also, I am not advocating civil disobedience. But I think church leaders need to start "thinking outside the box" if they are to shepherd their flocks and take care of their spiritual needs. Appreciate what your father said about devolved legislative "powers to act for public safety in times of disaster and disease".
Nov 18, 2020 at 6:14 history answered JBH CC BY-SA 4.0