Timeline for 3 Nep 20:24 - Why does Jesus Christ mention Samuel specifically?
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| Jan 9, 2021 at 14:44 | comment | added | Hans Vonn | @JoelRees I am looking at this again and my thoughts are changing. It is curious that Acts 3 and 3 Nep 20 are so similar. From this perspective I believe you are right it is Samuel from the Old Testament. It is curious as well that Moroni quotes these verses in Acts to Joseph Smith (JS History 1). | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 13:09 | comment | added | Joel Rees | (cont.) For us, it's important to know about both Samuels' prophecies. (Otherwise, Peter would not have made the effort to mention the ancient Samuel.) | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 13:07 | comment | added | Joel Rees | @JBH: I should say it's not worth arguing about. I laid out my ideas in the answer I gave, and I'll repeat two points and let you and whoever reads this make up your own minds, as you should. (1), as I told Pyrulez, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that He was referring to their Samuel. Scriptures are not of a single interpretation, even in a case like this. (2) All through the Book of Mormon, the concept of Jesus' ministry being known, and prophesied about from the days of Adam is taught. Moreover, the brass plates seems to have contained prophecies not in our Old Testament. | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 10:18 | vote | accept | Hans Vonn | ||
| Jul 2, 2017 at 10:18 | comment | added | Hans Vonn | You are right that Samuel the Lamanite is the prophet being discussed. Samuel from the Old Testament is not mentioned in the Book of Mormon. Thank you for your input. | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 10:11 | comment | added | Hans Vonn | I agree that Samuel, the Lamanite, was of great importance to the Nephites. - Hel 13:2 - First mention - Hel 16:1 - Nephites that believe are baptized - 3 Nep 1:5 - Plan of wicked to destroy believers - 3 Nep 8:3 - Nephites look for sign of 3-day darkness - 3 Nep 20:24 - All prophets from Samuel? - 3 Nep 23:9 - Jesus corrects records - Mor 1:19 - Prophesies fulfilled - Mor 2:10 - Prophesies fulfilled | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 1:37 | comment | added | Hans Vonn | Thank you for pointing out that Samuel the Lamanite's relatively recent prophecies is what would be on people's minds. It is great to be able to read the scriptures from the perspective of those present. | |
| Jul 1, 2017 at 23:46 | comment | added | JBH | I see your point, but the reason I disagree is that nobody at the time of 3 Nephi is worrying about what OT Samuel taught about them 1,000 years previously (which was nothing other than to generally testify of Christ) while S. the L. spoke specifically of signs they would be seeing before Christ's arrival. Further, considering the number of prophets who taught of Jesus between Moses and Jesus all over the world, it's odd that He would limit the date range to (at best) 1,500 B.C. and 930 B.C. and prophets only in the old country when the relevance is between 1,500 B.C. and 34 A.D. | |
| Jul 1, 2017 at 23:39 | comment | added | Joel Rees | I would go with that, except that it seems to me that Jesus is emphasizing that all the prophets from Samuel testified of Him. It's true that the Book of Mormon hints at a number of prophets not specifically mentioned in the extant text during the approximate 40 years between Samuel the Lamanite's testimony/prophecy and His own advent in the Americas, and there are several specifically mentioned. But I think He is evoking the scope of His ministry, which extends back to Adam, here. Not that it makes any difference, doctrinally, but the Savior seems to be echoing Peter's words, as well. | |
| Jul 1, 2017 at 23:25 | history | answered | JBH | CC BY-SA 3.0 |