Timeline for According to the Catholicism, is a conscious denial of the gospel of Christ a mortal sin?
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Aug 14, 2016 at 23:10 | comment | added | Cannabijoy | I think it is that simple, and wonderful, and the most beautiful thing I can imagine. Unless there is a single person that we wish to have their flesh burned forever and ever, and we could never be happy as long as they receive "eternal life", then there is nothing greater and more perfect than what God has done. "But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am YHVH which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith YHVH" Jeremiah 9:24 We can chat if you'd like. | |
Aug 14, 2016 at 10:25 | comment | added | Matt Gutting | It's not quite that simple, but I'd need to discuss in chat, not comments. | |
Aug 14, 2016 at 6:13 | comment | added | Cannabijoy | The only other people that are definitely going to hell are those that deliberately ignore the gospel in order to say "I did not know", right? If these are the only other people, couldn't we spare the few that we have left by never mentioning it again? It seems thats nicest thing to do if their ignorance helps them avoid having their flesh burned forever. I might have to retract my question "How should Catholics react when nonbelievers are sent to hell"? because it seems the God of Scripture has sent his son to be the savior of all mankind! HALLELUYAH! Surely YHVH is the only true God! | |
Aug 14, 2016 at 6:10 | comment | added | Cannabijoy | @Matt, I think I like this. If I'm understanding your note under Case 2 correctly, the people that are definitely going to have their flesh burned in an eternal lake of fire and brimstone forever and ever in agonizing pain are those that "know" that the Church's teaching are "necessary for salvation" but deliberately reject them. If such a person knows this, and knows his rejection will send him to hell, then surely this person is not mentally capable enough to be held responsible for such a stupid decision, correct? | |
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Aug 13, 2016 at 12:02 | comment | added | Matt Gutting | @andrew does this work better? | |
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Aug 13, 2016 at 10:33 | comment | added | Cannabijoy | Thank you @Andrew. I was having the exact same thoughts. | |
Aug 13, 2016 at 10:32 | comment | added | Cannabijoy | @Matt, I agree with Andrew. What about those that fit under Case 1.5? I discussed this with a Protestant friend today, and he went on a rampage about how baptism isn't necessary and the Catholic Church is wrong. If the people that have been baptised but teach this common Protestant doctrine, or the people that listen to them, all die today will they have their flesh burned in agonizing hell fire forever and ever? | |
Aug 13, 2016 at 10:01 | comment | added | Andrew Leach | Except that it is possible to receive a valid baptism and consciously reject the Catholic Church (which may be a Case 1.5) | |
Aug 13, 2016 at 0:00 | comment | added | Matt Gutting | In particular, in nearly all cases the Church regards any these people who have received baptism as being validly baptized, so that they would fit into Case 1. | |
Aug 12, 2016 at 23:42 | comment | added | Matt Gutting | @anonymouswho I would say that it need not include every such person, though doubtless it would include some such. | |
Aug 12, 2016 at 22:11 | comment | added | Cannabijoy | Thank you Matt. Concerning Case 2, does this include anyone that belongs to a Protestant denomination? | |
Aug 12, 2016 at 17:44 | history | answered | Matt Gutting | CC BY-SA 3.0 |