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Oct 7, 2015 at 18:08 | comment | added | James Shewey | Peter Gadsby, a YEC also supports this viewpoint - answersingenesis.org/genesis/garden-of-eden/the-tree-of-life | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 17:56 | history | edited | Ben Mordecai | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Oct 7, 2015 at 12:20 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | reformedforum.org/ctc331 | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 12:06 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | feedingonchrist.com/the-tree-of-life | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 12:03 | comment | added | Flimzy | Please provide one or more sources showing that these YECs hold this view. | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 12:01 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | YEC is not a denomination so you're going to find wild variations between young earth creationism of different theological traditions | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 12:00 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | Geerhardas Vos and the Reformed YECs. I think Van Til, and most modern conservative Presbyterians. | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:55 | comment | added | Flimzy | That also doesn't seem very YECish to me. Taking the TOKOGAE to bring about physical death, but the TOL to bring about consummate life, doesn't seem very consistent. But if you can provide a source that indicates that there are actually YECs who believe this, I would consider it a suitable answer. | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:53 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | I did answer the question. The sacrament delivers consummate life. Not the life that Adam already had, and the life that people today have. It is resurrection life, just like Jesus did not resurrect to ordinary life but to a glorified body. Adam lost the access to the sacrament that would have made him like the resurrected Christ. Glorified | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:50 | comment | added | Flimzy | That's good and fine. It doesn't seem to answer the question. As you pointed out, what is the purpose of a sacrament that nobody needs? And then as soon as they need it, it's taken away? | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:48 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | Just to be clear, do you know what I mean by sacramental? I mean an ordinary material thing that God appoints to fulfill a spiritual purpose of providing grace to his people. So baptism you have ordinary water that God uses. Likewise in communion you have ordinary bread and wine that God uses for grace. To say that the Tree of Life is sacramental would mean that the tree was created to be a means of grace so that when people eat from it they are brought in to a type of life like Jesus possessed in his resurrection body. | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:30 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | And for a historical Tree of Life it works perfectly fine. It's fruit is considered sacramental in delivering consummate life to the eater | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:29 | comment | added | Flimzy | But this question is asking for the YEC perspective, so I think the historical story perspective is paramount. | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 11:02 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | YECs tend to read the Genesis creation account as a historical story and they probably would point to a literal Tree of Life. But if for some reason you weren't reading the Genesis account as a historical story you could still answer the question about the significance of the Tree of Life for people who already couldn't die. | |
Oct 7, 2015 at 6:15 | comment | added | Flimzy | But if you're a YEC, you read the Genesis account as literal... Or are you saying there are YECs who believe in a literal Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, but view the Tree of Life as non-literal? | |
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Oct 6, 2015 at 20:12 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | Of course it does not have to be. Depends on how you read it. | |
Oct 6, 2015 at 20:12 | comment | added | Ben Mordecai | No, it is sacramental. Like communion or baptism the ordinary elements are a means of grace because of God's sanctifying of the object for this purpose. It can certainly be a literal tree. | |
Oct 6, 2015 at 20:03 | comment | added | Flimzy |
[T]he tree of life represents consummate life -- So it's not a literal tree?
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Oct 6, 2015 at 19:23 | history | answered | Ben Mordecai | CC BY-SA 3.0 |