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Jul 3, 2018 at 13:55 comment added Sola Gratia Must the believer do the works which are called evidence? If they don't will they still be saved? The reason I ask is because it's always implied by Calvinists that 'they'll do the works if they're saved' but their choosing to do them and actively doing them is foggy and it seems like they mean they will robotically do them.
Jul 2, 2018 at 14:52 comment added Nathaniel is protesting @SolaGratia It's irrelevant in that it has no actual bearing on the justification itself. But the church still attempts to discern whether individuals are saved, particularly for issues of membership and discipline. Such judgments are made on the basis of "evidence," and could be mistaken.
Jul 2, 2018 at 14:44 comment added Sola Gratia What is the difference between evidence and proof? When speaking of justification before God, what others think is completely irrelevant is it not?
Jul 2, 2018 at 12:56 comment added Nathaniel is protesting @SolaGratia Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, but good works are still done "willfully." The inner motivations of others can't be perfectly discerned, but good works still serve as "evidence" (though not proof) of someone's salvation.
Jul 1, 2018 at 20:58 comment added Sola Gratia Help me understand how the necessity of works as evidence is something less than doing good works willfully, because I can't see how you can accidently do them, or fail to have evidence of election...
Oct 26, 2015 at 20:00 history edited Nathaniel is protesting CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 16, 2015 at 17:36 history answered Nathaniel is protesting CC BY-SA 3.0