Timeline for Genesis 28:18 Where Did Jacob Get the Oil?
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| Aug 7, 2014 at 20:42 | comment | added | Bit Chaser | I agree that oil was likely to be useful. The NLT calls it "olive oil" which might be correct, but the Hebrew identifies it simply as "oil". biblehub.com/hebrew/8081.htm The NASB does translate it six times as "olive", but it would be better to say might be or possibly olive oil. | |
| Aug 7, 2014 at 14:35 | comment | added | Loduwijk | That is, the question asks "Why would he bring oil along?" so "it is common knowledge that oil was often used among ancient people; it was useful" is a reasonable answer. With a question like "Why would he bring oil along?" is like asking "Why did your neighbor bring their dog with them?" or "Why are the little forks used for the salad?" Someone could very reasonably answer those questions with just a shrug and a comment of "Why not?" So perhaps a little bit of the issue is with the question. | |
| Aug 7, 2014 at 14:30 | comment | added | Loduwijk | @Zoe I think it's enough support that it's not speculation. At least, if someone grabbed up a few possessions for a trip and ran away and you assume it's reasonable that oil could be included, that is no more speculation than if someone went to spy out enemy territory (assume we weren't told what [or if] was brought), got into a fight, and - according to an ancient text - "thrust the point of his weapon into his enemy", and you thought it was reasonable that a blade (sword/dagger) was brought, or maybe a spear. | |
| Aug 7, 2014 at 6:09 | comment | added | Cary Bondoc | @Mawia, yes. Now it fits to my question. Thanks Mawia! | |
| Aug 7, 2014 at 6:08 | vote | accept | Cary Bondoc | ||
| Aug 7, 2014 at 6:04 | comment | added | Mawia | @CaryBondoc I've edited my answer. I hope this removes your confusion. :) | |
| Aug 7, 2014 at 6:02 | comment | added | Mawia | @LCIII Hi, I included some more information to support my premise. I hope this is more convincing now. | |
| Aug 7, 2014 at 5:58 | history | edited | Mawia | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2014 at 23:58 | comment | added | Cary Bondoc | Now I'm confused if this is the real answer. :) Haha! | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 23:55 | vote | accept | Cary Bondoc | ||
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| Aug 6, 2014 at 21:43 | comment | added | Zoe | @Loduwijk Wouldn't the latter fall directly under speculation and assumption? But this site... | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 18:07 | comment | added | Loduwijk | He can probably use any source that talks about any time to at least back up his claim that it is so useful that it is likely someone from ancient times would have some. That is not as strong as saying "Someone in Solomon's time would have had some because this says so." but saying that "This one person is likely to have had some because so many ancient people throughout time often found it useful" is still somewhat convincing. Not saying that's exactly how he worded it though, so perhaps a small edit would fix it. | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 16:37 | comment | added | LCIII | @Mawia Plus, this question is asking where he got the oil, not why he used it. | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 15:14 | comment | added | LCIII | @Mawia I'm just saying future events can't be identified as the cause of a current one. You can't cite sources that happened after the existence of Jacob to reveal Jacob's intentions. | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 15:02 | comment | added | Zoe | @Mawia He's saying that you only have text that say the olive oil was important after Jacob's time. You cannot use what happened after to explain what happens before without citing what actually happened before because it becomes a speculation. I mean, just because I believe in Jesus Christ doesn't mean my family and ancestors waaayyyy before me did too. No, they were probably idolaters. So, it's not solid proof. And I'm definitely not saying that the importance of Jesus Christ was not yet known in my ancestor's time. What you say sounds nice but can't be used to explain Jacob. | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 14:06 | comment | added | Mawia | @LCIII What is your assertion that things were different at the time of Jacob? Aren't they the same people? Are you saying that the importance of Olive oil was not yet known in Jacob's time? | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 13:54 | comment | added | LCIII | This thing with Jacob and the rock happened before Israel (the nation) even existed. Your answer refers entirely to things that existed hundreds of years after Jacob. You bring up great things but you have a very false premise. | |
| Aug 6, 2014 at 8:00 | history | answered | Mawia | CC BY-SA 3.0 |