Timeline for Interpreting Acts 2:38 together with John 1:12
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| Jun 6, 2014 at 3:05 | comment | added | david brainerd | @disciple, "Regeneration" in Calvinism refers to an enabling to believe, and most of Protestantism follows Calvinist definitions. I would reject the term "baptismal regenerationist" for myself for that reason, and because I've seen it mostly used as a pejorative to allege that people believe baptism is magic water that doesn't require faith. Baptismal rebirthism would be a better term, since 'regeneration' can be confused with the Calvinist 'zapping' but 'rebirth' cannot. Certainly I believe the rebirth takes place in baptism. | |
| Jun 4, 2014 at 15:10 | comment | added | Bit Chaser | @david brainerd: I will have to investigate this further. My understanding is that "regeneration" is near-synonymous with salvation. Many Calvinists teach (I think) that regeneration occurs first, then faith unconditionally happens. Some credobaptists believe (I thought) that when faith exists and then one is baptized, regeneration occurs. Does regeneration precede baptism, yet baptism is essential to salvation according to some? Is there a name for what happens during baptism? | |
| Jun 4, 2014 at 3:45 | comment | added | david brainerd | @disciple, Personally I would save the term "baptismal regeneration" for those who believe in infant baptism, as what is normally meant by the term is that baptism itself regenerates apart from faith. Its a libel on anyone who holds that baptism is essential, but is nonetheless a credobaptist, to call them a "baptismal regenerationist." | |
| Jun 3, 2014 at 20:20 | comment | added | Bit Chaser | This answer impresses me as a good summary of the BR position. I suspect it was downvoted because of disagreement only. It would be a better answer with links to one or several essays from groups holding to BR; preferably with short quotes and/or your summary. | |
| Jun 3, 2014 at 15:09 | comment | added | curiousdannii♦ | Galatians says baptised into Christ not water, so I'm happy to interpret that as metaphorical baptism rather than physical. I believe that "of water" in John 3:5 is referring to the spirit. That said this answer presents its perspective very clearly, even though I disagree with it, so thanks. | |
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| Jun 3, 2014 at 14:55 | history | answered | david brainerd | CC BY-SA 3.0 |