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Jan 31, 2014 at 17:39 comment added Anon343224user @Caleb Good job. I like the use of the word envy. we are not commanded not to covet. We are told to covet earnestly the best gifts. The commandment against covetousness is specific in what we shouldn't covet. Namely things which belong to other people, so I guess envy is a good word.
Jan 31, 2014 at 17:33 comment added Caleb @foxyfennec I believe I already noted that in my answer, see the 4th italicized term.
Jan 31, 2014 at 17:31 comment added Anon343224user The body is the temple of the holy spirit, so it is dishonouring God as well as thieving from the woman, her family, etc.
Sep 13, 2011 at 15:19 comment added Paŭlo Ebermann Ah, so this is like the first article of the German constitution (human dignity is inviolable) could be seen like the umbrella for the following articles about human and civil rights. I still not sure how to know when the first commandment would be violated (in the cases where none of the others fit) - would littering the environment count, for example?
Sep 13, 2011 at 15:11 comment added Caleb @ashansky: I did :) See the note in the answer about envy. I only elaborated on the last one in comments because Paŭlo asked what the justification was for that one. I'll be honest with you, I couldn't remember the word "covet" when I wrote this. I could only think of "imrenmek" and "göz dikmek", the Turkish words used in various translations and was trying to come up with what the English was while typing on my cell phone in a bus :)
Sep 13, 2011 at 14:33 comment added Andrew I'm surprised that you didn't use the commandment "Do not covet" as the basis for your argument. Desiring (and really going beyond desiring) something that's not your seems to be the root of the sin being discussed here.
Sep 13, 2011 at 13:38 comment added Caleb @PaŭloEbermann: Yes this is a broad interpretation, but I think it's warranted. In fact the first commandment is often considered to be the foundation and that it is impossible to violate any of the others without also violating the first. I'm not the first to hold this interpretation, many theologians have espoused this understanding. There is a famous quote from Martin Luther stating exactly this but he was not the first. Jesus himself both summed up the whole of the law and stated the most important commandment by saying "Love the Lord your God", and that everything else follows this.
Sep 13, 2011 at 13:27 comment added Paŭlo Ebermann Huh. So in essence every act that can be somehow interpreted (by whom?) as doing something wrong is "not honoring the Lord"? This seems like a quite broad interpretation of this commandment.
Sep 13, 2011 at 13:20 comment added Caleb @PaŭloEbermann: Sure. Think of it this way. If I lend you a screw driver and you wantonly use it as a crowbar, your disrespect of my property is an offense against me, not just the tool. Every woman is created in the image of God and belongs to him. Secondly, God's commandment to men is that they should lay down their lives in love, care and sacrifice for and in order to purify women. Rape is an offense against the Lord (not honoring to him) because it abuses his property AND because it disobeys his commands.
Sep 13, 2011 at 13:11 comment added Paŭlo Ebermann Could you explain how rape is covered by not honor the Lord? I don't quite understand how that relates to such action.
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