Timeline for Why did Jesus never address God by the name "Jehovah"?
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Jul 16, 2016 at 4:09 | comment | added | Lee Woofenden | The word "Jehovah" is not used in Luke 4:19. The Greek word used there is κύριος, which is the usual Greek word for "Lord." | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 18:44 | comment | added | Kristopher | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 18:41 | comment | added | Kristopher | @brilliant The Bible records a few occasions when faithful humans spoke to the heavenly Jesus—and sometimes to angels. (Acts 9:4, 5, 10-16; 10:3, 4; Revelation 10:8, 9; 22:20) But were those men praying to these heavenly creatures? No. In all such instances, the heavenly creatures initiated the communication. Faithful men and women reserved prayer for God alone.—Philippians 4:6. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:20 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (9) make hell a pleasant place for them after their death. In other words, they don’t want to be saved from hell. And they also consider the heavens to be the most boring place for humans. So, would you also categorize them as Christians? :) After all, they meet you definition. One thing is for sure, though – they never pray to Jesus. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:19 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (8) “my point stands the definition of Christian is … the one who believes Jesus is the only way to salvation” – Obviously, you have never met Satanists. The irony here is that they also believe that Jesus is the Son of God and the only way of salvation from hell. However, they consider themselves to be the servants of Satan, they pray and worship to Satan, and they believe that the Satan will be able to | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:18 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (7) Besides, once in His earthly ministry Jesus made it clear that merely praying to the Father and relying on such prayers doesn’t save people from having, in fact, Devil as their father (John 8:41, 42, 44). | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:18 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (6) communication between Paul and Jesus we only see His encouragements to Paul and never once a rebuke. This shows clearly that there was nothing wrong in what Paul was teaching. Moreover, had Paul’s teaching concerning calling on the name “Jesus” in prayers been in any way heretical or at least erroneous, that would have meant that Jesus had made a big mistake in having chosen Paul “to bear His name before the Gentiles”. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:17 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (5) early believers’ communicating directly to Jesus who was now in the heavens (Acts 7:59; 9:5, 10-17; 18:9-10; 22:10, 18, 21; 23:11; 26:16-18). On one hand, Paul was teaching all the believers in all the churches to pray to Jesus, that is to “call on the name of Jesus” (1st Cor 1:2), and Jesus, on the other hand, once testified concerning Paul that he was “His chosen vessel to bear His name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel” (Acts 9:15). And in all the following cases of | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:16 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (4) "Also to whom did Jesus instruct us to pray?" – During His earthly ministry, that is, before His ascension, He, of course, instructed the believers to pray to His Father. However, after His earthly ministry was completed, in which He had opened up the name of God to His disciples (John 17:26, Matthew 28:19) and when all power was given to Him both on the earth and in the heavens (Matthew 28:19) and His heavenly ministry was started (Hebrew 8:1,2,7) we see again and again cases of | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:15 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (3) Jesus is the Son of God and the only way of salvation is absolutely needed, but that's not the only requirement for being a Christian - turning to Jesus in prayer, that is, calling on the name "Jesus" (Acts 22:16, 1st Cor 1:2) is the other requirement. This is the way of identifying a Christian presented to us by the Bible. | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:14 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (2) the way how the early believers in Christ were being identified by their persecutors was exactly by that - by their practice of calling upon the name "Jesus" in their prayers (Acts 9:14). The same book also shows us that Jesus identified Himself with those people (Acts 9:5) and never once rebuked them for their practice of praying to Him. Of course, believing that | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 14:13 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris (1) - I, in fact, didn't say a word about the trinity. I was saying about the fact that the early Christians were dying for their practice of praying to Jesus (which means that to them it was the most crucial matter of their faith), while JWs teach that it is wrong to do so! The book of Acts tells us that the word "Christian" was firstly ascribed to the believers in Christ in the city of Antioch (Acts 11:26). The same book tells us that | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 11:22 | comment | added | Kristopher | @Brilliant my point stands the definition of Christian is not one who believes in the trinity but one who believes Jesus is the only way to salvation. Also to whom did Jesus instruct us to pray? | |
Jul 14, 2016 at 3:07 | comment | added | brilliant | @Kris - "We believe Jesus is the saviour the son of God..." - And yet you don't pray to Jesus Christ and teach that it is wrong to do so while the Acts 9 and 10 show clearly that the early Christians all prayed to Jesus, as well as to the Father, did not consider that as praying to two different Gods, and yet considered praying to Jesus so important that were even dying for that. All you guys do is pray to the "Father in the name of your Son", which is like if I wrote this reply not to you, but to one of my cousins instead, in the name of Kris, in which case you'd never even read it. | |
Jul 13, 2016 at 23:59 | comment | added | Kristopher | @brilliant JWs are Christians FYI We believe Jesus is the saviour the son of God who gave his life on behalf of mankind that salvation is only possible through Jesus Christ | |
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Mar 7, 2013 at 4:29 | comment | added | brilliant | "For more information about the name and who today is carrying on Jesus's work of sanctifying the name" - Thank you for this invitation, however, I want to get the answer to this question of mine from Christians first. | |
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Feb 26, 2013 at 4:51 | history | answered | user4032 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |