Timeline for Similarities and differences between Christian Mysticism and the Charismatic movement?
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May 24 at 12:45 | comment | added | GratefulDisciple | I'm still reading the 2 references I cited above (which should be enough for an answer), I'll try to post an answer based on what I can get by this weekend before the bounty period is over. In the meantime, I found a series of articles in a Pietism journal by a musicologist about the exact way Lutheran pietism and Lutheran Orthodoxy (2 rival factions at the time) influenced my hero J.S. Bach and how Pietistic elements manifest in his church music. Very interesting! | |
May 24 at 2:11 | comment | added | user61679 | @GratefulDisciple Are you interested in posting an answer? Since no one else seems interested. | |
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May 19 at 15:41 | comment | added | GratefulDisciple | From Pietism to Charismatic movement, my thesis would be that Protestant Pietism is not satisfying enough ("cold formalism"), so there is an emergence of a different kind of mysticism within the charismatic mov. that on paper is still within the framework of Bebbington's evangelicalism (see 2016 paper Exploring Pietism as an Intermediary for Lutheran-Pentecostal Dialogue) but in practice is irrational in character and is thus susceptible to "hyper-emotionalism" and "bizarre patterns" maybe not unlike the (now forgotten) medieval excesses. | |
May 19 at 15:25 | comment | added | GratefulDisciple | If I were to write an answer, I will likely have this thesis: Lutheran (German) Pietism as a bridge between Late Medieval mysticism and Charismatic movement. First, Pietism (started with Luther) offers a sola scriptura check on unbridled mystical speculation but more negatively (from Catholic perspective) denying the possibility (cf St. John of the Cross) of "a person reaching beyond Christ to the divine darkness" (quote from page 51 of *Pietists, Protestants, and Mysticism: Arnold and Late Medieval Spirituality). | |
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May 18 at 1:11 | comment | added | user61679 | @GratefulDisciple Thank you for sharing these resources and insights. Would you like to write an answer? | |
May 17 at 18:55 | comment | added | GratefulDisciple | There's an insightful episode from Truth Unites Is "Spirituality W/O Religion" Worse than Atheism interviewing Michael Horton who is working on his 3 volume historical spirituality books (the first is out: Shaman and Sage: The Roots of "Spiritual but Not Religious" In Antiquity), exposing the ancient roots of both today's Evangelical Pietism AND private revelations prevalent in Charismatic circles as various ways to synthesize the ancient "natural supernaturalism" and "Orphism". | |
May 17 at 18:42 | comment | added | GratefulDisciple | You may want to add at least 1 more distinction: Pietist (central to Evangelical spirituality). I would say the older Mysticism ties with the hierarchy of being (primarily utilizing Neoplatonic concept to describe it, but also the effect of grace to know God more metaphysically and using the "ascending" paradigm), while Pietist focuses more epistemologically using the human psyche with the "listening" paradigm, and the latest Charismatic is a variation of Pietist but more bodily with the "passive receptive" paradigm tying w/ HS gifts: vision, prophecy, word of knowledge. | |
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May 17 at 0:15 | history | asked | user61679 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |