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On the surface, Christ's suffering may not appear necessarily unique in respect to the levels or duration of either physical or emotional pain, but it was certainly unique in respect to the nature of the sufferer and the spiritual dimension of the suffering: The completely innocent Incarnate Creator suffering at the hands of his rebellious creation; and the ...


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Short answer: The reason is, that Jesus' suffered and died in our place. This is how the bible puts it in Romans 5:6-8 ESV: 6 For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. 7 For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— 8 but God shows his love for us in ...


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We can identify several views regarding the suffering of Jesus. (1) That he did feel fear and grief, but did not sin. (2) That he did not feel fear, per se, but did feel grief. Within (2), there are differing understandings of why Jesus felt grief and agony. Those who (a) accept penal substitution will argue that he was suffering on behalf of his people, ...


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Yes, your arguments are correct. Here is some expansion and support… The first and best answer to suffering is the freewill defense. For God to make free creatures is worthwhile; truly free creatures are able to act for good or evil. People who cannot do certain things are not truly free. A person needs no other response, but other responses are available ...


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Deriving some formula on your own then trying to figure out whether it "fits" somehow is a dangerous way to live your life. You'll get yourself into all sorts of scrapes of your own making and miss out on most of the blessings God has in store. Instead, you should learn to use Scripture as a sort of lens or framework by which to understand the world. If you ...


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It's true that the Bible says that man has "dominion" over the animals: And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” (Genesis 1:28, ESV) But there are many, many passages in the Bible ...


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The point Edwards makes here is that since God accomplishes his purposes in all things, even evil things, he cannot be said to be carried away by emotions and thus experience involuntary ecstasy or distress. But Edwards clearly admits that God can feel pleasure – the crucial point being that God, not the creature, is its ultimate source: Though he has real ...


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You're thinking too hard, and not quite straight. Obviously Jesus didn't not experience everything. Your example is pretty convoluted but lets do an easier one. As a sinless man, there is at least one emotion Jesus didn't experience: a guilty conscience. God "made him to be sin who knew no sin", so he experienced in some fashion what it was like to be ...


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Having buried my mother last week after seeing her go through progressively worse interventions due to complications from her pneumonia, I can only say that I wish more people would ask this question. Any Christianity that ignores the question of suffering neither addresses the reality of the Sin nor the biblical witness. The question of suffering is central ...


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Yes... A majority of Christian traditions recognize on some level that we will and even must suffer. The author and perfecter of our faith was hung on a tree. As his followers, we can expect pretty much more of the same. 1 Peter 4:12-14 (ESV) 12  Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you, as though ...


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Now the question of who is the target audience for Job is a tricky one, because there is the audience that Job intended, and the audience that God intended. Since the book is not addressed to a group as are Paul's letters, or to a son as is the Book of Proverbs, or to Theophilus as are Luke and Acts, the best clues come from understanding the purpose of the ...


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The suffering caused by the physical cross and by the soldiers was only a tiny portion of Christ's suffering. His suffering and death was vicarious, meaning, he suffered in our place, Christ died for our sins. God poured out upon His Son the wrath that was due to us. The wrath of God against sin is very great. Sinners will spend an eternity in Hell for ...


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Any time you hear anything along the lines of "I'm trying to be a Christian", a giant red flag should immediately go up in your mind. Whoever said that is either playing fast and loose with words or they have completely missed the point. Being a Christian is a binary state (our position as either lost or saved in the eyes of God) that is not determined by ...


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According to Jehovah Witness teaching, we are currently under the rule of Satan, not that of God (Jehovah). We see the horrid state of the world now as proof that we need God's kingdom to come here on earth as it is in heaven. We also believe that that time is almost here when there will be no more disease, famine, hatred, etc. See this link for more ...


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The answer to this question is always "Yes" in the Bible. If Jesus suffered we ought to suffer as well as we must partake in everything Jesus took. We suffer with him. We die with him. We'll live with him. 2 Timothy 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us When Jesus was being led to Golgotha Luke 23:...


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The extraordinary thing about Jesus' suffering is not so much its physical intensity, but the fact that He, the Second Person of the Trinity, deigned to suffer. He did not have to, but he specifically wished to save us by enduring suffering. We should also keep in mind that Jesus, being God, had (and has) perfect knowledge of all the sins committed in the ...


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I think I know what you're getting at with this question, but you've got to consider what St. Paul says: Col 1:24 Now I rejoice in my sufferings for your sake, and in my flesh I am filling up what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ on behalf of his body, which is the church, And that was at the beginning of the Church. It's not that St. Paul thought ...


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Jesus' death was sufficient simply because DEATH is the punishment for our sins, not suffering. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Savior must suffer for a long time to cover our sins, only His death. If you look at all these verses, we'll see that "Christ died" and it is enough: http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=christ+died&...


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TL:DR; Sleep does not cause temptation, prayer prevents it. How does sleep put the apostles into temptation? It doesn't. The most likely source of your question is that the cause and effect you attribute is a misunderstanding of the Scripture. On that scene in Matthew we can choose four insights of many, with sources and expanded discussion below. ...


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The Greek phrase "wrath of God" is οργη θεου. The phrase appears only twice in the New Testament. John writes that the wrath of God will be visited upon those who do not believe in His Son (3:36). Paul writes that the wrath of God is revealed against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men (Romans 1:18). The same Greek phrase also appears ...


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Here's a quote from G.K. Chesterton which I think explicates a Catholic view of the subject: “That a good man may have his back to the wall is no more than we knew already, but that God could have His back to the wall is a boast for all insurgents forever. Christianity is the only religion on earth that has felt that omnipotence made God incomplete. ...


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Some Christians suffer more than others, but all Christians are guaranteed to suffer a little bit due to 2 Tim 3:12. You won't have to look for ways to suffer, you will suffer primarily because of Gal 4:29. The one born after the flesh (the unsaved world or the carnal nature in a believing Christian) is guaranteed to persecute those who walk in his Holy ...


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There's a fascinating dissection of Job that I recently read: http://www.bookofjob.org/ It's a pretty long and thorough analysis, but the summary is that God allows evil and suffering to happen because if he didn't then our love would be conditional on his protection from evil and suffering. Just like Satan says about Job, he only loves God because his ...


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Note: The quotes I offer here are taken from the 1983 Catechism of the Catholic Church. There is an online version here. Numbers are the paragraph numbers for each point. 601 The Scriptures had foretold this divine plan of salvation through the putting to death of “the righteous one, my Servant” as a mystery of universal redemption, that is, as the ransom ...


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The other answer seems to largely explain it, and I was going to comment to add this but could not for want of rep. Genesis 9:3-4 states that: Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; and just as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. Only, you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. (NRSVA) This seems to often be ...


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The idea isn't that there was crucifixion or death or any number of people who have died and will die horrible deaths, but rather that it was Jesus the Messiah who had died. Who was Jesus the Messiah is the question. Once the OP knows the answer to that question, then the OP question is answered. Here's a hint. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I ...


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Reading your comments to the various fine answers already posted here tells me that your unstated question is "what has Jesus's suffering to do with being born again", rather than looking for the name of "heresy" you're committing. Don't be too hard on yourself (by feeling you're among the damned just because of the way the pastor ...


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To experience suffering is to configure one's self to / with Christ ... already in the act of Baptism, which brings about a configuration with Christ, and then through his Sacrifice...the Church is continually being built up spiritually as the Body of Christ. In this Body, Christ wishes to be united with every individual, and in a special way he is united ...


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As a note, while this answer is compatible with Christianity, it is not, strictly speaking, a "Christian" answer to the question. Basically, it is a Christian's non-Christian approach. I think that the question is misstated. I don't believe in God because of evil. Ok. What is evil? Basically, it eventually maps to suffering, so the new quote is: I ...


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Isaiah 53 is not just about sin. Much more so, it is certainly not just about disease. It is a picture of Christ on the cross, so all history leads up to this and all the future feeds back to this. The whole 'curse' of Adam was placed upo Him, and from Him the whole 'blessing' of Abraham is made. This is nothing less than the fall and return to paradise. So ...


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