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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

Say, for the sake of argument, that free will is definitely real. Now, consider some arbitrary person (for convenience, we'll call him "John"). Let's say, also, that John was born in 1000 AD....
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

There are lots of complexities around prayer, but this is not one of them. It's true that many of the things involved in you getting bread to eat involve your own decisions, but many do not. For ...
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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

Why make an 'effort' ? Because he is God. Because he made me. Because he gave me the gift of an existence. And the gift of a humanity ; of thought ; of feelings ; of abilities ; of mind ; of heart ; ...
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Solomon’s Godly Wisdom but also Solomon's sinning by marrying “Non-Hebrew” women

Solomon knew that disobeying God’s command not to marry pagan women would be disastrous. Solomon knew full well what the Law said about such things. As to WHY he flew in the face of God’s Laws, in ...
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

Here's an example of how God can bring something about that is part of his plan, without violating anyone's free will. Let's take a guy named Bob. God, being omniscient, knows everything about Bob, ...
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If God is perfect; why was the first covenant faulty?

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from ...
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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

God appoints the means as well as the result. If the result for you is to be in Heaven, God supplies everything needed to accomplish this. Ephesians 1:3-14 lists many of the separate steps that are ...
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According to Jehovah's Witnesses, How does God safely choose what to foreknow?

Jehovah’s Witnesses accept that God is omniscient. To be omniscient means that God knows all things, past, present and future, all the time. Nothing escapes His knowledge, including our thoughts and ...
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If God is perfect; why was the first covenant faulty?

OP: Surely God knew that the first could not be kept by man. Why didn’t He just start with the covenant of Christ? While God knew it, man didn't. Man had to be taught our inability to be righteous. ...
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If God is perfect; why was the first covenant faulty?

God warned humankind from the beginning that for naturally created creatures to attempt to live ('life' being more than a physical, animal, existence) by his own strength, his own ability, his own ...
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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

Free will God created a perfect world, yet gave Adam and Eve a way to reject him by accepting something that would remove their innocence. Why offer them a choice? Why not leave it perfect? Because ...
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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

The question as to who will be saved is for God to know the answer to, and for us to discover. But if we can't be bothered making any kind of effort or even attempt to sort out the question of ...
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Solomon’s Godly Wisdom but also Solomon's sinning by marrying “Non-Hebrew” women

One of the purposes of the Old Testament is to demonstrate why we need the Gospel. The only solution we have to sin is the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and so the scriptures demonstrate how everything we ...
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

(My answer has gotten so long and unwieldy that I have no idea if it's even coherent anymore. I hope it will be useful to you in parts, even if it doesn't hang together as a whole.) You really have ...
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

There are a few points in favor of "petitioning the Lord" in our prayers: For every commandment given, there are blessings conditional upon obedience to that law (see Deuteronomy 11:26-27, ...
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Acording to Orthodox Christianity does God know the future?

Eastern Orthodox doctrine holds that "the knowledge of God is vision and immediate understanding of everything, both that which exists and that which is possible, the present, the past, and the ...
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According to open theism, did God know that the crucifixion of Jesus would benefit anyone after him?

Ron Nash doesn't seem to be wrong here in the facts he's presenting, however he's picking his words carefully. This poor impotent deity faced the possibility that the suffering of his Son upon the ...
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Statements about the doctrine or the future made by current LDS Prophet, and the church view on those

Does the LDS church assert that doctrinal statements made by the current Prophet are either "inspired", "infallible", or both? Inspired, definitely, but not infallible. Prophets are merely mortal ...
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How does open theology interpret 1 Peter 1:2?

1 Peter 1:2 KJV  Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be ...
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predestination beliefs

Yes, classical Arminianism would hold a view similar to what you are describing. But I've met people who don't necessarily agree with Arminianism on everything, yet when they read passages like ...
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What do Reformed Christians understand by God's foreordination?

The word ‘foreordained’ is usually a translation of a Greek word meaning “to know beforehand.” Speaking about the birth of Jesus, 'foreordained' is used in that sense in 1 Peter 1:20 (KJV): Who ...
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Genesis 22:12 - "..."for I know that you fear God..," what is the possible "interpretation" in consistent with God's sovereign foreknowledge?

I don't think the interpretation is to show that, "God's foreknowledge is justified." The following is from John Gill who is quoting someone else. Psalm 1:6; Saadiah Gaon (i) interprets it, "I have ...
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

If Alice asks Bob for a cup of sugar, and Bob hands her a cup of sugar, how does that violate Alice's free will? The free will is in asking for help. Scripture speaks, at various times, of people ...
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Solomon’s Godly Wisdom but also Solomon's sinning by marrying “Non-Hebrew” women

Natural Wisdom Indeed, Solomon was endowed with much knowledge and wisdom. He could write Proverbs, examine wildlife, understand husbandry and biology. Even make just rulings in difficult legal cases. ...
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

The matter of "free will" for humans is invariably looked at from the (limited) point of view of the humans who already believe they have free will. The matter of God's free will can only be ...
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Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient?

Is praying futile given that God respects our Free Will and is omniscient? The short answer is no. Sometimes one has to be tenacious in prayer to get a response. Like a good Father, God desires to ...
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If God knows which people will go to Heaven, why not only create those people?

I applaud you for asking tough questions but there is a logical break in your question that I would like to try and point out. "He could instantly implant all the spiritual growth, experiences, ...
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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

I look into Romans, and what I see, on the subject of Israel, is "God has not rejected his people, whom he foreknew" (Romans ch11 v2). Moving back, Abraham the individual is saved by his ...
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Why make an effort to get saved if my life is pre destined by God?

The problem here -- the belief that foreknowledge negates free will -- doesn't require God to be the foreknower, and doesn't even require a foreknower. Aristotle gives the first known mention of it. ...
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If God knows which people will go to Heaven, why not only create those people?

The question of whether God could simply "fast forward" earth and simply create free creatures who obey Him was recently asked on this site, so for the sake of answering the first part of ...
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