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Why do non-LDS Christians accept the testimonies of the apostles but reject the testimonies of the 3 & 8 witnesses to the golden plates?

For those who have 'discovered' the Jesus of the Bible, resurrected from the dead and alive today, they swiftly spot that the Jesus of Joseph Smith is not the same Jesus. He is claimed to be the first ...
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How do Christians rebut Matt Dillahunty's objection that the resurrection of Jesus is untestable, unfalsifiable and thus unreasonable to believe?

Dillahunty's argument is self-refuting. He commits the error inherent to all forms of verificationism. A simple, jargon-free description of verificationist principles would be: "you shouldn't ...
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How do Christians address the "Bigfoot" analogy presented by skeptics in relation to the resurrection of Jesus?

(Note: throughout, I assume we're only discussing post-Resurrection sightings.) There are at least five symmetry breakers (for the sake of making this Answer as complete as possible, I am shamelessly ...
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If all demons are believers, then why are some humans atheists?

I imagine it's hard not to believe in the supernatural when you yourself are a supernatural entity. Greater evil by no means necessitates greater unbelief; while we know very little about demons, they ...
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Believing that Christianity is "probably" true vs. being fully convinced that Christianity is definitely true?

Preliminaries Having no philosophy / theology degree, but as an amateur aspiring to be a Christian epistemologist, I will share in this answer a way for a rational person who, after intellectually ...
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Why do non-LDS Christians accept the testimonies of the apostles but reject the testimonies of the 3 & 8 witnesses to the golden plates?

Even if we accept that Joseph Smith received the golden plates as LDS describes it, neither LDS adherents nor skeptics can verify the translation. Contrast this with Bible believing Christians, any of ...
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Can faith be based on hope rather than belief or intellectual assent?

Christian faith is not based on wishful thinking: "Oh, I hope I get to heaven." Christian faith is not based on belief in a religious system: "Oh, by performing all those rituals and ...
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Why do non-LDS Christians accept the testimonies of the apostles but reject the testimonies of the 3 & 8 witnesses to the golden plates?

It is simplistic to suppose that a choice is being made by certain Christians to believe the testimony of twelve Israelites in the middle of the first century or to believe the testimony of eleven men ...
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How can Protestants authoritatively declare something wrong or heretical under Sola Scriptura?

Speaking as a lifelong Protestant, I would say that in genuine Protestantism, the Head of every man is Christ. There is no hierarchy. None is above another. The greatest is as the least. But it is ...
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Why do non-LDS Christians accept the testimonies of the apostles but reject the testimonies of the 3 & 8 witnesses to the golden plates?

Me and my friend made an effort to read the Book of Mormon. Of the many things I could say, one is pretty strong. A miraculous translation should not produce bad grammar; neither should it produce ...
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How do Christians rebut Matt Dillahunty's objection that the resurrection of Jesus is untestable, unfalsifiable and thus unreasonable to believe?

I'd suppose that the same arguments regarding existence might be made about Confucious, Plato, Melchizedek, Nero, and other historical figures. But what are counter arguments? You might look for ...
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How do Christians rebut Matt Dillahunty's objection that the resurrection of Jesus is untestable, unfalsifiable and thus unreasonable to believe?

Apart from the point about the argument being self-refuting from another answer, this argument proves too much. By the author's logic, the claim that George Washington used to be President of the ...
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How do Christians who believe in a witness of the Holy Spirit via thoughts & feelings respond to the claim that thoughts & feelings are unreliable?

Thoughts When I encounter the claim that thoughts are unreliable, my response is: Do you think so? Is that thought reliable? Descarte's famous line cogito ergo sum is part of his argument that one ...
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How do Christians address the "Bigfoot" analogy presented by skeptics in relation to the resurrection of Jesus?

Sufficient Number of Witnesses per the Scriptures In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established. (2 Cor. 13:1) The Lord often sends more than two or three witnesses to ...
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What lines of evidence and arguments refute the notion that the gospels are nothing more than dismissible 'reports of reports of reports of reports'?

Although the question is worded with a kind of sarcasm that could be considered on the border of rude, I would simply rephrase it to say 'Why do so many people believe the that the gospel accounts are ...
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What is an overview of Christian epistemological views on scientific skepticism and the epistemic value of eyewitness testimony?

I'll offer a perspective that is compatible with many Christian denominations, though I would not claim it is representative of what all Christians believe. Respect for skepticism I have some ...
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Believing that Christianity is "probably" true vs. being fully convinced that Christianity is definitely true?

There remains a type of epistemic distance, in the evidence for the Christian faith, that is sufficient but not exhaustive. That distance is there for a reason. It's to avoid coercion. The evidence ...
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If all demons are believers, then why are some humans atheists?

The text in question states that "even the demons believe" not that "all demons believe." One can certainly picture atheistic spirits wandering in the nether gloom, perhaps unware ...
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How do Christians address the "Bigfoot" analogy presented by skeptics in relation to the resurrection of Jesus?

Saint Augustine once preached: The apostles could believe in the Church without seeing it, because they saw Jesus. Now you should, likewise, believe in Jesus without seeing Him, because you see the ...
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How can Protestants authoritatively declare something wrong or heretical under Sola Scriptura?

How can Protestants authoritatively declare something as wrong or heretical under Sola Scriptura? Actually, we have a perfect example in Jesus. Jesus, when he lived on earth as a man, constantly ...
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Do any Christian groups or denominations teach reliable methods for scientifically minded individuals to seek and find God?

The "proof" of God's existence is that anything exists at all. I understand that there are many refutations of the ontological argument and that this will not satisfy the purely scientific ...
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How do Latter-day Saints rebut GM Skeptic's objection against the epistemic value of personal spiritual experiences?

On GM Skeptic's main argument seems to be that religious experiences are simply the result of brain activity under special circumstances The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe that ...
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What are Christian guidelines for making the transition from "knowing about God" to "knowing God"?

The more relevant question is probably: Whom does the Lord know? Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is ...
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How do Christians address the "Bigfoot" analogy presented by skeptics in relation to the resurrection of Jesus?

OP: How do Christians break the symmetry? How is this atheistic argument from analogy invalid? The analogy is invalid for a number of reasons. First it was prophesied and then fulfilled. Second it ...
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What lines of evidence and arguments refute the notion that the gospels are nothing more than dismissible 'reports of reports of reports of reports'?

Human lines of evidence, and arguments, are slippery things. Verbal ones can unintentionally end up as "Chinese whispers". Arguments can appear sound until a new piece of evidence is ...
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Why do non-LDS Christians accept the testimonies of the apostles but reject the testimonies of the 3 & 8 witnesses to the golden plates?

A Christian is one who has believed the testimony of the Scriptures concerning the Lord Jesus Christ and has thus received the testimony that God has given regarding his only begotten Son. By ...
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Why do Cessationists consider recent testimonial evidence for the gifts of the Spirit less reliable than 2000-year-old evidence for the resurrection?

There is no reference to tongues/healings/miracles in the pastoral epistles nor the later writings of John. References to Pentecost are about the utterance of foreign, earthly, languages. Then no ...
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Why do non-LDS Christians accept the testimonies of the apostles but reject the testimonies of the 3 & 8 witnesses to the golden plates?

because this is one of the positive arguments for the divine inspiration of the Book of Mormon -- which should be of the utmost importance if it happens to be the case. Over and over in the Bible ...
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How do creationists address the similarity between Irreducible Complexity and God Of The Gaps?

Fair question. But your construction of the IC argument doesn't quite capture its essence. IC doesn't say "We don't know how it would work with only 9, therefore God." Rather, it says, "This complex ...
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