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How do Trinitarians respond to passages in the Bible that seem to clearly distinguish between God and Jesus after his ascension?

First, I will answer the question as posed in the title. The Ascension does not make a difference. Jesus ascended bodily into Heaven, and therefore His humanity also ascended. Second, as the Father ...
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How do Trinitarians respond to passages in the Bible that seem to clearly distinguish between God and Jesus after his ascension?

The answer is simple! As I've stated hundreds of times the Father has no separate manifestation from the Son. The Son is the only manifestation and REVELATION of the Father SO HE GAVE IT TO JESUS. ...
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What is the difference between "person" and "substance"?

The terms substance and person are (in the context of Trinitarian theology and Christology) Latin translations of the Greek terms ousia and hypostasis. The background from Greek philosophy. Plato ...
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According to Catholicism, what is wrong with Luther's doctrine of ubiquity?

The ubiquity doctrine is problematic to Catholics in that it does not acknowledge a "real" (substantial) change. Second, Lutherans reject Rome's identification of the bread and wine as the corporal ...
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According to Catholicism, what is wrong with Luther's doctrine of ubiquity?

From what you've quoted of Ott, it sounds like this "Ubiquity* Doctrine" holds that Christ's human nature is His divine nature. This is the heresy of monophysitism,** which says that Christ only has ...
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Are Lutherans comfortable with worshipping a consecrated host or do they consider it to be idolatry?

The Book of Concord condemns the adoration of the elements, though without specifically calling it idolatry: On the other hand, we unanimously reject and condemn all the following erroneous articles, ...
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How do Trinitarians respond to passages in the Bible that seem to clearly distinguish between God and Jesus after his ascension?

Trinitarians believe that the glorified human nature of Christ exists forever. This is important to show the fidelity of God to our future hope of one day to be resurrected into a glorified eternal ...
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How do Trinitarians respond to passages in the Bible that seem to clearly distinguish between God and Jesus after his ascension?

This is an old one and I'll follow on from @Mary's comments. This is far from the first time the church has been here, for example: Psalm 2:7, NIV I will proclaim the Lord’s decree: He said to me, “...
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How do Trinitarians respond to passages in the Bible that seem to clearly distinguish between God and Jesus after his ascension?

The case in point, which you seek answers to, is the view quoted that deals with two issues. First, information about God and Jesus as in the last book of the Bible, Revelation. Second, theology ...
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Is consubstantiality and homoousis the same thing?

They should be taken as meaning the same thing, but the Greek meaning was somewhat complicated when put into Latin, which was further complicated when that Latin was later put into English. The ...
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According to Catholics (and Mark 7:19) what happens to Jesus' flesh after it is ingested?

Unlike perishable food that sustains the body, Christ's body in the Eucharist cannot be broken down and assimilated because His glorified body is incapable of harm. As St. Thomas Aquinas writes (...
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What fancy word describing a church's stance on the Eucharist most closely applies to Mormonism?

In the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints the Eucharist is generally called "the Sacrament." Though priesthood authority is required to administer it, there is no concept of ...
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What is the difference between Consubstantiation and Impanation?

Impanation is the opposite of Transubstantiation. Transubstantiation: No Bread. Only Christ. Consubstantiation: Christ is present along with the bread Impanation: Christ is present as the substance ...
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According to Catholicism, what is wrong with Luther's doctrine of ubiquity?

Why Calvin Errs Jesus' miraculously makes enough food for everyone, from a limited amount. The simple answer is the miracle Jesus performed prior to instituting the Eucharist: the miracle of ...
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Are Lutherans comfortable with worshipping a consecrated host or do they consider it to be idolatry?

Here is a quote from a Lutheran theologian, Rev Paul T. McCain: The Lord gave it to us to eat and to drink, not to tuck away somewhere to “adore” it outside of its instituted use However, here ...
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According to Catholicism, what is wrong with Luther's doctrine of ubiquity?

What is wrong with Luther's doctrine of ubiquity is that it flatly contradicts the Christological definition of the Ecumenical Council of Chalcedon: one and the same Christ, Son, Lord, only ...
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According to Lutherans, under what conditions (or at what moment) do the consecrated species cease to be the blood and body of Christ?

As a former Lutheran, I was taught that the belief is that the sacramental union only persists through the liturgy, although the elements are still treated with respect afterwards. Wikipedia's ...
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What is the biblical defense for consubstantiation?

The short answer is Christ's own words: Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is my body." 27And He took a cup, and when ...
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Is consubstantiality and homoousis the same thing?

"Consubstantial" is an English translation of homoousios so yes they are meant to convey the same meaning, namely having the same substance. However, underlying this fact there is a problem: ...
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Where did substance language enter the Trinity debate?

The term ὁμοούσιον (homoousion) predates Dionysius Bishop of Alexandria (r. 247-265 A.D.), who wrote in response to a c. 262 A.D. letter to him by Pope St. Dionysius (259-268 A.D.): I have not found ...
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Why wasn't the Logos included in the Nicene Creed?

Summary of this article The question, “why wasn’t the Logos included in the Nicene Creed” must be answered by considering the bigger picture; the politics of how the Nicene Creed was put together. ...
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What fancy word describing a church's stance on the Eucharist most closely applies to Mormonism?

This talk by LDS Apostle David A. Bednar entitled 'Always Retain a Remission of Your Sins' is a great compilation of LDS scripture showing how the sacrament ties into the essential saving ordinances ...
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According to Lutherans, under what conditions (or at what moment) do the consecrated species cease to be the blood and body of Christ?

In Lutheran theology the sacramental union of Christ's body & blood is connected with the proper use of the sacrament. So, for example, Eucharistic elements are often taken after a church service ...
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