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The persons, or "hypostases," of the Trinity – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

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Logical contradictions and the trinity

This question may seem strange, but I believe it is valid. It is commonly understood that God cannot create logical contradictions, such as a square circle, or make 1+1=3. However, it seems that the ...
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According to Trinitarians, who is seated on the Throne and who takes His scroll from His right hand, in Rev 4 and 5?

In Revelation 4 we see the Lord God Almighty sitting on the throne of heaven, who is described as the Creator of all things: Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; ...
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Is Trinitarian Christian theism a simple hypothesis?

For theism to be simple, it must follow from some basic property. Christian theism posits an unlimited agent at the core of reality and likewise a perfect being that has no proper parts as per divine ...
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Which theologian advised Theodosius?

This question is based on chapter 23 of the 1988 book by R.P.C. Hanson - The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God: The Arian Controversy, 318-381. "RH" in the quotes below refers to this ...
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Does God the Son have Faith?

While answering another question, a comment perplexed me and I cannot quite understand it. "It was not Christ 'fulfilling the law' that saved, but him bearing the punishment for sin we all ...
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According to the Doctrine of the Trinity, is God split up?

As the question goes: is God split up? I have this theory, and hopefully, I'm not alone in this, that God the Father was one, before He split Himself into three, meaning that the trinity must be wrong ...
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How does a Trinitarian explain the role each "person" of the Trinity plays, in the creation of Adam or an animal?

Trinitarians believe that God exists in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is also a belief amongst Trinitarians that Jesus is both the Son of God and God, that he existed before his ...
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According to Trinitarians, how could Jesus (God the Son) be GIVEN life in Himself (John 5:26), if he shares the same essence of being than the Father?

A similar question has been asked here, but no details have been asked other than how Trinitarians interpret this verse. The top answer of the linked question talks about the Son being "eternally ...
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Are the 3 Persons of the Trinity dependent on each other?

So I'm recently trying to reconnect with my faith and I stumbled across the doctrine of the Trinity, and so a question came across my mind especially after I got into a debate with a muslim friend ...
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How do Trinitarians deal with this contradiction regarding the Creator?

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. If a Trinitarian is asked which God is being referred to, which God created the heaven and the earth at the beginning, MOST, if not ...
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If God YHWH is “the Angel of the LORD” in the form of pre-incarnate Jesus in the OT, why does He not “rebuke” Satan Himself? (Zechariah 3:2)

Some Protestants and Catholics believe “the Angel of the LORD” frequently mentioned in the OT, to be God YHWH himself in the form of pre-incarnate Jesus. They use the unbiblical term of “theophany” ...
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Why does the Nicene Creed not use the attribute ' consubstantial ' for the Holy Spirit?

Following are some excerpts from the Nicene Creed: I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God, born of the Father before all ages. God from God, Light from Light, true God from ...
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What have been excellent ways for Christian theologians to describe the concept of God, who is also the Trinity?

Triune Godhead It goes without saying that Christianity is based on the concept of a Triune Godhead, a Trinity, a Tri-unity. But those theological words do not make it any easier for the lay person, ...
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Which Jesus died or in what sense did Jesus ("God") die for our sins

Jesus is "fully God" & "fully man". Jesus (the man) is made up of body+spirit(+soul). Jesus (God) is a spirit. Which of these "natures" died for us, considering that: ...
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How can Jesus Christ be a "mediator between God and men" when he himself is fully God?

According to the Thayer's Greek Lexicon, the word "mediator" (greek: mesités) has the meaning of: one who intervenes between two, either in order to make or restore peace and friendship, or ...
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Do Biblical Unitarians consider worshiping Jesus and/or the Holy Spirit as God to be idolatry?

Many Christians believe that Jesus is God (it's just a matter of realizing how widespread trinitarianism is, for example). However, there are Christians that go one step further and act on this belief,...
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How do Trinitarian Christians respond to these differences between Jesus Christ and God

How do people who believe in the theology of The Holy Trinity respond to these clear differences between God and Jesus Christ? # The Father Jesus Christ 1. God is not put to the test (Deut 6:16) ...
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In the Athanasian Creed, is the Son part of the Father?

In the Athanasian Creed, the three Persons are one God, and the ‘one God’ is the Trinity. The question is, how are the three Persons one God? If Father = Son = Spirit, that would be Modalism, where ...
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According to Catholic Tradition, can God the Father and Jesus disagree?

According to Catholic Tradition, can God the Father and Jesus disagree? Or are they incapable of disagreement?
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What are some arguments for/against ontological subordinationism? [closed]

I have seen that earlier Church fathers such as Tertullian and Origen - among others - were subordinationists. Why are they correct/wrong? I appreciate both biblical and logic arguments.
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Do Seventh Day Adventists believe in three Centers of Consciousness in God?

I want to ask my Seventh-Day Adventist friends about their view of the Trinity. I was listening this morning to one of your preachers. He said that EGW never refers to the Trinity but is adamant there ...
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According to Trinitarians, did the stature of the Eternal Logos get diminished?

Trinitarians assert that Jesus is the Eternal Word of God. From John 1 they assert personified pronouns in order to claim this chapter supports this idea. This assertion of ambiguous Greek pronouns ...
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According to trinitarians (or binitarians): How can God the Son be “appointed heir of all things“ (Hebrews 1:2) if „all belongs to Him“ already?

Hebrews 1:2 (KJV) says about the Son of God: [God] hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; So God (the Father I ...
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Do Mormons actually believe in any sort of supreme being/ultimate reality/"Absolute"?

From what I've heard about the Mormon God, he doesn't actually seem to fit the description of "supreme being" and rather seems more like a polytheistic Greek or Hindu God. The following may be ...
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Why does God command his already perfectly loyal Angels to worship the second person of the Godhead (Hebrews 1:6)?

Hebrews 1:6 (NIV) says: when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” My question is for Trinitarians, Modalists and Binitarians: Why was it necessary ...
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How do Trinitarians reconcile Jesus' words in John 5:31 with the view that GOD the Father / the Son / the Holy Spirit are the same being?

In John 5:31, Jesus said the following: If I testify about myself, my testimony is not true. There is another who testifies in my favour, and I know that his testimony about me is true. ‘You have ...
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Who is God in the Old Testament? (Trinity)

I had always thought the Entity of the Trinity that appears in the Old Testament was God the Father. However, upon re-reading several passages, I am beginning to think it might be Jesus Christ. The ...
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Is it absolutely required for people to believe in the deity of Jesus to be called Christians? [closed]

The more I study scripture the more I realise that all those proof texts for the deity of Christ can also be interpreted in another way that points more in the direction that Jesus is an Elohim but ...
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Does the New Testament state that Jesus Christ is the 'image' and the 'likeness' of God?

I am seeking answers from Protestant Trinitarians in regard to the statement in Genesis 1:27 that humanity was made in the image and the likeness of God ; and whether this actually refers to the ...
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If God was not created, and He is eternal, the why was His form - i.e. the Holy Spirit and His Son, perfectly suited to salvation?

The Son only has to exist if Man needed to saved, He is not inherent by any means. Likewise, a similar argument can be made for the Holy Ghost. How, then, can all three Persons of the Trinity be ...
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If all persons of the Trinity have the same/a united will what does Jesus mean in John 6:38?

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me Surely this implies they have separate wills?
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Which Person of the Trinity is the Ancient of Days sitting on His throne?

Accordring to Trinitarians who is this person with a form, sitting on His throne? Daniel 7:9-27 New King James Version Vision of the Ancient of Days 9 “I watched till thrones were put in place, And ...
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Will all glorified children of God take on the title/name of YHWH in the age to come?

God is 1. I think we can all agree with Jesus' most important commandment... the Shema. I've been told here by the most prudent of Trinitarians, that YHWH is not a being or a person, but instead 3 ...
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Divine Relations of the Trinity

I have been studying the Trinity recently, and most of my studies have been from St. Thomas Aquinas, in his Summa Theologiae, and he would agree that the persons are the divine Essence. One thing ...
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Reference request: Trying to locate the reference of a quote by Pope Athanasius of Alexandria about the Trinity

I read this quote for Saint Athanasius of Alexandria in an Arabic book, but I am trying to locate the source (reference) of that quote (in which work for Athanasius), or something of the similar ...
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Why are the Nicene and Dedication Creeds so different?

The Nicene and Dedication Councils were attended by more or less the same people and were only 16 years apart (325 vs 341) but resulted in opposing creeds. The Nicene Creed is pro-Sabellian but the ...
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Why was homoousios not mentioned for 20 years after Nicaea?

In the “centuries-old account of the Council of Nicaea: … The whole power of the mysterious dogma is at once established by the one word homoousios … with one pronouncement the Church identified a ...
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Was Tertullian a Sabellian? [closed]

Recently, I stated in an article that Tertullian was a Sabellian. One person objected and quoted a passage that states that Tertullian was “one of the chief critics of Sabellianism.” Consequently, I ...
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How can trinitarians profess co-equality when Jesus said the Father was greater?

Trinitarians typically believe that the persons of the Trinity are coequal. How do they explain Jesus' statement that his Father was greater? Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come ...
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Why were ousia and hypostasis synonymous in the Nicene Creed?

Why were ousia and hypostasis synonymous in the Nicene Creed? In the original 325 A.D. Nicene Creed, an anathema is included which has ousia and hypostasis as synonymous. In this case, the Trinity is ...
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Was Athanasius a Sabellian?

For an overview of Sabellian theology, see - The Sabellians of the Fourth Century. The main characteristic is that God is only one hypostasis (Reality or Person). Jesus Christ, therefore, is not one ...
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Did the Cappadocians teach one or two substances?

"One substance" means that Father and Son are one single substance. That is known as numerical sameness. But if homoousios in the Nicene Creed is translated as "same substance," it ...
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How many minds exist within the Holy Trinity? [duplicate]

Normally I would hear the answer is one mind, but I was wondering; If beliefs are part of your mind, and since Jesus (the second person) would believe "I am the Son of God" and the Father ...
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Why does the Trinitarian Formula start with "In the NAME…" and not "In the NAMES…"?

Today the Universal Church celebrates the Solemnity of the Holy Trinity. In the Trinitarian Formula, we invoke the NAME (singular) of the Three Persons of the Trinity. In English we say: "In the ...
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In the hypostatic union, is Jesus just the name of the man or of the God or of both?

First things first: I am not a Trinitarian. However, I know many good people that are Trinitarians and some of them are very close to me so we'll say that I'm sympathetic to the cause. I'm sincerely ...
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(For denominations who accept icons) Who is "Jesus Christ of the old days" icon?

I'm Eastern Orthodox, but this question can be answered by catholics and any denomination that accepts icons. I went today to my local church and I saw a painting on a wall that I never noticed. It ...
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Significance of one divine essence/nature

All human beings share a common nature/essence, yet are not one "being", but the 3 persons of the Trinity share a common essence/nature and are one being. I have 3 questions here: What ...
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How does the soul fit in with the existence

My question(s) relates to how the soul fits in with the existence "equation" and I have 2 main questions: Is the human soul part of your person or your essence, if essence then do humans ...
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What does it mean that the Spirit proceeds from the Father?

The Bible describes the Son as "the only begotten from the Father" (John 1:14). A child is begotten only once. Therefore, I understand "begotten" as a human analogy for how the ...
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From a non-Trinitarian perspective, how would you show that the Bible does not teach that the Son is equal with the Father?

See below for a more precise definition of the question. Two Views among Evangelicals Ted Peters says that if anything, contemporary mainline Protestant and Roman Catholic trinitarian thinking is “...