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An ecumenical creed first adopted in AD 325 and amended in 381.

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What evidence is there that the original framers of the 325 Nicene Creed intended it to be read in subordinationist ways?

“’Subordinationism’, it is true was pre-Nicene orthodoxy” [Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers p. 239.]. RPC Hanson (The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God, p. xix.) even wrote: “With ...
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What was the real issue between Arius and Bishop Alexander at Nicaea in 325?

What was the core issue in the Arian Controversy? Whether the Son was God? It is often stated that it was about whether Jesus is God. But Lewis Ayres says that is not true. The so-called Arians also ...
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What are the theological implications of "filioque"?

Depending on your tradition, the Nicene Creed may or may not say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son as well as from the Father: (Greek) τὸ ἐκ τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκπορευόμενον - who from the Father ...
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How and why did baptism become linked to Apostle's Creed "forgiveness of sins" in the 381 Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed?

The common interpretation of "we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins" in the 381 Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed was baptismal regeneration which makes many Baptists ...
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What does the Nicene Creed mean when it says that the Father and the Son are of the same substance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed says: And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God,] ...
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Why are the Nicene and Dedication Creeds so different?

The Nicene and Dedication Councils were attended by more or less the same people and were only 16 years apart (325 vs 341) but resulted in opposing creeds. The Nicene Creed is pro-Sabellian but the ...
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Why was homoousios not mentioned for 20 years after Nicaea?

In the “centuries-old account of the Council of Nicaea: … The whole power of the mysterious dogma is at once established by the one word homoousios … with one pronouncement the Church identified a ...
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Was the Nicene Creed accepted under duress?

In the book Are you Really that Stupid? Observations of a Skeptical Believer, author Joshua Christian makes the claim that the Nicene Creed was accepted under less than ideal (from a theological ...
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How was the idea of homoousion developed, and when was this term used prior to the Nicean Council?

According to the Nicean Creed, Jesus Christ is said to be: Light of Light, true God of true God, begotten and not made; of the very same being (ὁμοούσιον) of the Father, by Whom all things came into ...
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Why was homoousios used in the Nicene Creed?

The word homoousios is not in the Bible. It also was not a standard part of the Christian confession immediately before Nicaea. Rowan Williams described it as “the radical words of Nicaea” (RW, 236) ...
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Why were ousia and hypostasis synonymous in the Nicene Creed?

Why were ousia and hypostasis synonymous in the Nicene Creed? In the original 325 A.D. Nicene Creed, an anathema is included which has ousia and hypostasis as synonymous. In this case, the Trinity is ...
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Did the Cappadocians teach one or two substances?

"One substance" means that Father and Son are one single substance. That is known as numerical sameness. But if homoousios in the Nicene Creed is translated as "same substance," it ...
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On the Contributions of St. Athanasius at the First Council of Nicea?

In 325, the bishops gathered at Nicea (with Athansius present not as a bishop but as a deacon-secretary to the Bishop of Alexandria) for an ecumenical council---in which the Council declared that the ...
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Did Athanasius and the Nicene Fathers draw the conclusion that Arius worshipped the Entity called ‘the Devil’?

Did Athanasius and the Nicene Fathers, in their condemnation of Arius, draw the conclusion that the personage which Arius is actually describing (and whom he, presumably, worshipped) is really the one ...
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Which theologian advised Theodosius?

This question is based on chapter 23 of the 1988 book by R.P.C. Hanson - The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God: The Arian Controversy, 318-381. "RH" in the quotes below refers to this ...
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In what respect did Gregory Nazianzen think the pure Nicene faith was adulterated at Constantinople in 381?

In contrast to the previous pro-Homoian emperor Valens, “it was soon clear that Theodosius would pursue a pro-Nicene line.” (LA, 251) In February 380 - only one year after he was declared Augustus and ...
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What did "one baptism" in the Nicene Creed mean back then?

In the following statement in the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed (AD 381), what exactly does "one" mean for the framers (i.e., not to subsequent interpretation)? English: We [or I] ...
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Was Constantine The Great a Nicene Christian?

Lately I've been trying to figure out whether or not Constantine is a Nicene Christian. He was baptised by Eusebius who was of course an Arian. And since he was very close to Eusebius, he was ...
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Is the theory of Eternal Generation now redundant?

I note that many modern theologians no longer translate monogenēs as “only begotten” but as “unique” or as "one of a kind." Most modern English versions have adopted this new understanding ...
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Does the Orthodox Church accept the Athanasian Creed?

One of the main points of debate between the Eastern and Western churches concerns the words "and the Son" in the Nicene Creed's description of the Holy Spirit. The so-called Athanasian Creed ...
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Has the Catholic Church attempted a reconciliation of the attributes of the Universal Church in the Creeds?

In the Nicene Creed we say while referring to the Church, that it is One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. In the Apostles' Creed, however, the wording is "Holy Catholic Church." Both the ...
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Why is the controversy of the fourth century called the 'Arian' Controversy?

Apparently, the terms “Arian,” “Arianism,” and “Arian Controversy” were derived from the name of Arius, who was in charge of one of the churches in Alexandria, and whose dispute with his bishop ...
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What was the 'orthodox' view of God and Christ when the Arian Controversy began?

In response to my question why Theodosius was successful in bringing the Arian Controversy to a close, @Anne gave me references to some articles. I have read one by Steven Wedgeworth. It is a very ...
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In the 325 Nicene Creed, what is the meaning of "of" in the phrase, "He is of another substance or essence?"

The views that are condemned in the last part of the Nicene Creed may be divided as follows: There was a time when he was not (Wikipedia). Or probably more literally, “There was when He was not” (...
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Does any Nicene Father comment on the triple expression of 'Godhead' in scripture and the three individual words used to express it?

There are three occasions when the word 'Godhead' is used in scripture and on each occasion a different Greek word is used, thus giving an 'individuality' to each occasion. In Acts 17:29 ό θειον (ho ...
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God was born of Mary - really?

We must always say as well that God was born of Mary. From this accepted answer. God is spirit and invisible and his face cannot be seen lest we die. Yet apparently it's OK for God to dwell within ...
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Did Arius teach that time existed before the Son existed?

Arius wrote that the Son was “begotten timelessly by the Father … before aeons … begotten timelessly before everything” (Letter to Alexander – See RPC Hanson, The Search, page 8). But Alexander of ...
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Why has the phrase "from the ousia of the Father" been omitted from the Nicene Creed?

There seems to be a logical sequence in the Nicene Creed of 325: The Son is “begotten from the Father, only-begotten,” Therefore, He is “from the substance of the Father,” Therefore, He is “of one ...
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Should a Protestant accept the Nicene Creed? [closed]

In chapter 24.1 of his authoritative book on the fourth century Arian Controversy - The Search for the Christian Doctrine of God - Bishop RPC Hanson discusses how the various parties in that ...
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Why, according to the Catholic Church, does the Filioque not violate the Council of Ephesus?

On OrthodoxWiki it says that the filioque violates the Canons of the Council of Ephesus, because it's an addition to the Nicene Creed. The Catholic Encyclopedia says "[But] that creed itself ...
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Should the phrase "God from God" in the Nicene Creed be translated as "god from god"?

I previously posted the question: I understand the word theos may be translated as "God" or as "god." Bible writers added words (the, true, only, or one) to indicate the Almighty. ...
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Does the Catholic's Trinity doctrine imply that the Unitarian God Multiplied into Three persons by Generating the other Two?

Does the cause-effect and begotten doctrine of the Eastern and Roman Catholic Church imply a division or multiplication in the nature of God? Unitarian God (Father) begets or caused into effect the ...
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What were the Apostolic Fathers's contributions to Christology which survived to Nicene (325 AD) and Chalcedon (451 AD)?

The Apostolic Fathers is a special group of church fathers who personally knew or taught by the apostles. Some of their writings were even considered to be included in the canon although ultimately ...
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Does the phrasing in Nicene Creed cast doubt on the eternality of The Son of God?

The Nicene creed phrase “God of God” or “God from God” refers to The Word, Jesus. It seems that being of or from God indicates a beginning. Jesus,The Word,would not thus be eternally existing. How do ...
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A Question regarding arguments against the Nicene Creed

The Nicene Creed, produced at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD, was later amended (see Wikipedia) at the First Council of Constantinople in 381 AD and states : ( I am quoting excerpts from the ...
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Do non-Social Trinitarians believe that "begotten" and "proceeding" are different?

(To clarify, I am asking about Nicene-affirming Trinitarians, just ones that don't accept intra-Godhead emotions) In the Nicene creed, Jesus is described as: begotten of the Father While the Holy ...
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Why wasn't the Logos included in the Nicene Creed?

When the First Ecumenical Council was summoned by Emperor Constantine I at Nicea, in 325 CE, Eusebius of Caesarea came with his local Creed, convinced that it would be accepted, or anyway used as a ...
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Why was Theodosius successful in ending the Arian Controversy?

In the conventional account of the Arian controversy, the council of Constantinople in the year 381 made an end of that controversy. In reality, the controversy was brought to an end by Emperor ...
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According to Reformed theology, where is the Scriptural evidence for homoousion?

The Westminster Confession of Faith says: The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man’s salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in scripture, ...
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Was the "Nicene Creed" of AD 381 an update of the Nicene Creed of AD 325?

When people talk about "The Nicene Creed," it seems that they are often referring to the document associated with the Council of Constantinople (AD 381). I'm sure there are many reasons for this, one ...
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Should homoousion in the Nicene Creed be translated as "same substance" or as “one substance?”

Literally, homoousion means "same substance" from homos (same) and ousia (essence) (The Free Dictionary). But it is often translated as “one substance” (e.g., Merriam-Webster). The word “...
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Did St. Thomas Aquinas deny the Holy Spirit proceeds immediately from the Father alone?

There have been many attempts from among both Catholic1 and Eastern Orthodox2 theologians to revisit the theology behind the eternal procession of the Holy Spirit from the Father and the Son in light ...
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Survey: English translations of the Nicene Creed

Someone posted a question recently asking about the use, in the Nicene Creed, of the phrase "true God from true God". This was mildly surprising, as the version I learned uses "very God ...
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What is the biblical basis for the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed's claims that the Holy Ghost is the Lord and is to be worshiped and glorified?

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#Niceno-Constantinopolitan_Creed: And in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of life, who proceedeth from the Father, who with the Father and the Son ...
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What does the phrase "God of God" mean in the Nicene Creed?

What does the phrase "God of God" mean in the Nicene Creed? We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of ...
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Why was the name of Pontius Pilate included in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed?

Why was the name of Pontius Pilate included in the Niceno-Constantinopolitan Creed? Why was it important to mention his name in the creed? If only because of historicity, then wouldn't just a mention &...
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What does it mean that the Believers Eastern Church (in Asia) is an "Ancient-Future Church"?

Recently I was asked a question about the Believers Eastern Church and have been doing some research to find out what they believe. Here is part of what I discovered: The founder and current ...
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Why do most Catholic Churches not say the Nicene Creed anymore and instead say the Apostle's Creed?

Through our Creed, we profess our faith. My question: Why do Catholics say Apostle's Creed more than Nicene Creed? For example, we don't say Nicene Creed in Catholic Liturgical Mass or rarely do we ...
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In Catholicism, what are “all things visible & invisible”?

The Nicene Creed begins with the following: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. What does the phrase "all things visible ...
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According to Roman Catholicism, what does "proceeds' mean in the Nicene Creed?

The Nicene Creed says: We believe in one God,the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, ...