Questions tagged [extraordinary-form-of-the-mass]
For questions pertaining to the traditional Mass, also known as the Tridentine Mass.
33
questions
1
vote
0
answers
165
views
What has been the argument for the entrance hymn in the Church?
I attend the Ordinary form of the Mass. In it the entrance hymn is sung more often than the Gregorian introitus. I've been thinking about the reasons for this.
In the Extraordinary form we find no ...
1
vote
2
answers
54
views
Clarification of the 2007 letter of Pope Benedict XVI to bishops on the liturgy
The following excerpt was copied and pasted from the following webpage on the Corpus Christi Watershed website: More on the subject of “Mutual Enrichment” :
A letter of Pope Benedict XVI to bishops, ...
2
votes
2
answers
496
views
Are there parishes that celebrates Novus Ordo mass in Latin?
I would think it's a natural transition for Catholics who prefer the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM) to go to the Novus Ordo mass celebrated under General Instruction of the Roman Missal (GIRM) rubric in ...
1
vote
0
answers
140
views
What is the significance of the 3rd, 7th and 30th day after Catholic funerals?
I was reading a 1952 missal and wondering about some of the customs, one notable one I saw was that there was a particular commemoration that is supposed to be celebrated on the 3rd, 7th and 30th day ...
2
votes
1
answer
204
views
Why do some traditional Catholics choose Confirmation in the Extraordinary Form over going with their parish Confirmation?
I'm trying to figure out whether it is a good idea to attempt to get my kids confirm in the Extraordinary Form, while it lasts, or go through the regular parish way of doing things. My family and I ...
4
votes
0
answers
57
views
Could TLM be passed off as routine liturgical abuse in the Diocese of Chicago?
It's pretty clear that the Cardinal from Chicago has an appetite for allowing random and illicit things to happen under the guise of Vatican II. And he has clamped down on Traditional Latin Mass and ...
2
votes
0
answers
43
views
What are similar movements exist between Easter Celebrations in the Novus Ordo and the Extraordinary form of the Mass?
Since we'll probably never have a TLM Mass at my parish for any of the Easter celebrations, I wanted to ask what the differences would be, but the differences seem to be too many to enumerate so I ...
2
votes
1
answer
306
views
How do the 1962 Holy Week ceremonies compare to the 1954 ones?
How do the 1962 Holy Week ceremonies, initiated by Pius XII's 1955 Holy Week reforms, compare to the 1954 ones?
cf. FIUV's
PP 14: Holy Week Reform of 1955, Part I - General Comments
PP 14: Holy Week ...
2
votes
2
answers
322
views
After Ministeria Quaedem, who may be a Subdeacon for a Missa Solemnis?
In a Missa Solemnis there is a celebrant, a deacon, and a subdeacon. However, the minor order of subdeacon was suppressed by Pope Paul VI in the motu proprio Ministeria Quadem in 1972. Nevertheless, ...
3
votes
4
answers
257
views
Why did Cardinal Cupich prohibit Traditional Latin Mass on First Sundays?
Cardinal Cupich ordered no TLM Masses on several days of the year:
The new policy also prohibits the celebration of Traditional Latin Masses on the first Sunday of every month, Christmas, the Triduum,...
1
vote
1
answer
99
views
Why is liturgical form "irreversible"?
As G.K. Chesterton put it, it's useless to say you can't put back the clock, that's literally the function of the clock, to be able to put it back.. that is. So who is Pope Francis to say that ...
1
vote
1
answer
62
views
Need help understanding something from the dubia around Traditionis Custodes
The last point that the Bishops got in response about Traditionis Custodes was:
A parish priest or chaplain who is authorized to celebrate the traditional Mass but must also celebrate the ordinary ...
3
votes
3
answers
979
views
Why do some Catholics avoid communion at Novus Ordo masses?
Is there a consensus among some traditionalists in the Catholic Church that it is not licit to receive communion at a Novus Ordo mass? Even an otherwise solemn Mass proclaimed by the Bishop of the ...
1
vote
1
answer
82
views
When to approach the Communion rail?
When exactly are the faithful supposed to approach the Communion rail?
Immediately after the priest genuflects after receiving the Host, immediately after he genuflects after receiving the Precious ...
-1
votes
1
answer
154
views
In light of Traditionis Custodes, is the TLM celebrated by a well known schismatic Priest an invalid Mass?
In light of Traditionis Custodes, is the TLM celebrated by a well known schismatic Priest an invalid Mass?
The recent motu proprio of Pope Francis spoke more on "disunity" rather than the ...
2
votes
1
answer
55
views
What norms, instructions, permissions and customs are there that do not conform to Traditionis Custodes?
This bullet point in Tradionis Custodes has me super confused:
Art 8. Previous norms, instructions, permissions, and customs that do not conform to the provisions of the present Motu Proprio are ...
1
vote
1
answer
122
views
Does 'Traditionis Custodes' have any effect on Novus Ordo mass?
I was reading Fr. Raymond de Souza's article on the Pickle that Cardinal Gregory is in and it reminded me of something I thought of when reading Traditionis Custodes, it would seem as if the final ...
1
vote
2
answers
291
views
New liturgical rites created between 1370 and 1570?
On 14 July 1570, Pope St. Pius V promulgated Quo Primum, abrogating rites less than 200 years old:
This new rite alone [the Tridentine Liturgy] is to be used unless approval of the practice of saying ...
4
votes
2
answers
268
views
How to not awkwardly bow to thurifer during Mass?
I've been going to the extraordinary form of the Mass (i.e. Latin Mass) for about a year now, every time I go I keep meaning to write down the questions I have and ask them here, so this may be the ...
2
votes
1
answer
64
views
Why is the pace of the “oration” in the Traditional Latin Mass so brisk?
In a recent poll of those who attend the Traditional Latin Mass, a plurality indicated that their main reason for doing so was the reverence of it (The Latin Mass Among Millennials). I can appreciate ...
2
votes
2
answers
643
views
Why does the priest say the words of the consecration in a low tone in the EF when Jesus probably did not say it in a low tone?
In the Extraordinary Form of the Mass (the so-called "Tridentine Mass" or "Latin Mass") the words of the consecration are said in a low tone. In the Ordinary Form they are said in ...
3
votes
1
answer
74
views
How can something be less reverent but impart the same graces?
In my previous question Are Catholics allowed to believe that the EF or OF is objectively more reverent than the other?
someone mentioned two terms reverence and imparting grace. I had to ask a new ...
2
votes
2
answers
239
views
Are Catholics allowed to believe that the EF or OF is objectively more reverent than the other?
I have been to both the Ordinary and the Extraordinary form of the Roman Rite. Many people at the Extraordinary form told me something that could be understood as "the EF is more reverent than ...
2
votes
2
answers
570
views
What is the role of a permanent lector at a Traditional Latin Mass?
Our parish started Latin Masses a few months ago and I'm finally getting in the hang of it, but one thing I noticed is that the priest reads everything (except for a few things that the servers recite)...
1
vote
1
answer
551
views
Master of Ceremonies wears purple at High Masses according to the Extraordinary Form of the Mass?
Master of Ceremonies wears purple at High Masses according to the Extraordinary Form of the Mass?
I can recall reading in some liturgical book that the Master of Ceremonies (MC) had the privilege of ...
3
votes
3
answers
1k
views
Were the scriptural readings at Mass ever other than Vulgate read at mass pre-Vatican II?
Vatican II allowed vernacular languages for rites. However, the official document about it (Sacrosantum Concilium) doesn't mention anything about Bible readings. Where readings already allowed to be ...
2
votes
3
answers
129
views
Is it permitted for a priest say a Mass of Pope Pius V for new saints while employing the prayers taken from the Mass of Paul VI?
Is it permissible for a priest say a Mass in the Extraordinary Form for new saints (canonized after 1962) while employing the prayers (Opening Prayer or Collect, Prayer over the Offerings and the ...
1
vote
1
answer
114
views
Is it permissible for priests who normally celebrates the Extraordinary Form of the Mass to concelebrate Mass?
Is it permissible for priests who normally celebrates the Extraordinary Form of the Mass to concelebrate Mass when saying the Mass according to the Tridentine Rite?? What about at some special ...
1
vote
2
answers
199
views
Why is this music chosen for a Catholic Mass?
At 06:00 in this video (Levithögmässa. 23 november 2019, Göteborg) of Mass in the Extraordinary Form, some special music is performed. Why would anyone choose what I refer to as "concert music" for ...
0
votes
1
answer
97
views
Were the islands/countries discovered by Hispanic explorers named after Mozarabic feast days? [closed]
The Spanish and Portuguese normally named newly discovered countries and islands after the feast days they were discovered, especially during the late 15th and early 16th centuries. It always seems to ...
2
votes
1
answer
165
views
What rubric, canon, and/or rules forbid(s) the use of recorded music in a Tridentine Missa Cantata?
The question is related to this one: What is the basis for forbidding prerecorded music in worship services?
However, I am interested in the Catholic perspective. What are the canons, rules, and/or ...
7
votes
4
answers
2k
views
In which languages could the Tridentine Mass be said?
I know that the Tridentine Mass was always said in Latin, but have there ever been exceptions to this rule? I heard that some exceptions were allowed, but have no known sources to back up this ...
4
votes
1
answer
336
views
Explain to those knowing only of the Ordinary Form of Mass, what incense is and why it is used during the Liturgy at Mass?
In the Mass of Paul VI (OF = Ordinary Form) it is extremely rare throughout a liturgical year for incense to be used as compared to what is now the EF = Extraordinary Form of the Mass.
Explain to say ...