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In True Devotion to Mary, a book written in 1843 by Saint Louis de Montfort, is found the following quote:

... in heaven and on earth everything, even to God Himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin, they mean to say that the authority which God has been well pleased to give her is so great, that it seems as if she has the same power as God, and that her prayers and petitions are so powerful with God, that they always pass for commandments with His Majesty, who never resists the prayer of His dear Mother, because she is always humble and conformed to His Will.

True Devotion to Mary

It seems (to my protestant ears) that such startling statements should have quite obvious and direct foundation in Scripture. For instance, the claim that Jesus is the only access to God's salvation can be directly linked to Acts 4:12.

What is the biblical basis for:

1a) God giving such an authority to Mary that she "seems" to have the same power as God and, 1b) that her prayers are so powerful that they always pass for commandments with Him?

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    The statement of St. Louis de Montfort touches the undefined subject matter of Mary as Mediatrix of All Graces, which the present holy father, Pope Francis is clearly not favourable in defining and does not accept this as doctrine. There are a few saints in favour of promoting this doctrine, amongst them are St. Louis Marie de Montfort and St. Maximillian Marie Kolbe. The Holy See has yet to make a decision one way or another on this. For Pope Francis this is not an pressing matter and takes no interest in it.
    – Ken Graham
    Oct 31 at 14:39
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    Please note the following: For over a century, St Louis de Montfort’s works on the Treatise on True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin remained completely hidden and mysteriously concealed. Although St Louis wrote the book in the early 1700s, it was only in 1842 (April 22, 1842) that the manuscript was unearthed by a librarian at the mother-house of the Montfort Fathers at St. Laurent-sur-Sèvre, France. It was first published in 1843. At this moment in time, this is his own personal belief. Many of his points have not received papal assent.
    – Ken Graham
    Oct 31 at 15:01
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As far as I know, biblical references to the virgin Mary, the mother of our Lord Jesus, are few in number. While according her great respect and honour, "blessed among women" etc (Luke 1:42), there simply is no biblical scripture that could support the claim that "everything, even to God Himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin, they mean to say that the authority which God has been well pleased to give her is so great, that it seems as if she has the same power as God."

Knowing the history of how devotion to Mary developed, it becomes clear what the basis was for that 1843 claim. But bear in mind that not all Catholics believe they should pray to Mary to intercede for them. Praying to Mary to intercede is not official dogma. That idea did not develop until a few centuries after Catholicism became integral to the Roman empire, and this teaching formed as a result of papal decrees.

The origin of this adoration of Mary goes back to the Council of Chalcedon, 451, when Leo, Bishop of Rome, ratified the one personality of Christ and the authenticity and perfection of both His natures - human and divine. This clearly showed that Mary was Theotokos [God-bearer] only as to the manhood of Christ. The populace, however, took this title of Theotokos as an uplifting of Mary's status and venerated her. This quickly turned into unprecedented adoration. Clergy, like Nestorius, objected, pointing out that the Bible never says that God was born of the Virgin. It only speaks of the incarnation of the Logos, not of His birth. He said that although such fathers as Origen and Athanasius had used the term theotokos, it had not been incorporated into either the Nicene Creed of 321 or the Constantinopolitan Creed of 381. (Nor is it used either in the Anglican Articles or in the Westminster Confession.)

The term tends to obscure the humanity of Christ and lent itself to the misunderstanding that Mary was the mother of the Godhead. This, in turn, led to the idea that Mary should be worshipped and adored. The Chalcedonian definition added the words "as to the manhood" immediately after 'theotokos', which should have put paid to erroneous thinking, but it didn't work out like that among the Catholic populace. The Marian dogmas - the perpetual virginity, the immaculate conception and the assumption of the Virgin - are all derived from a non-kergymatic understanding of theotokos.

Now, fast forward to 1981 when six young Yugoslavians from Medjugorje caused religious and political uproar when they claimed to be seeing visions of the Virgin Mary. They claimed to have been given 9 secrets about the end of the world as we know it. When the last of them got the 10th vision, the secrets would start to unfold. As of 2004, 3 of them claimed to have received the full 10 messages. Since then, lots of claimed miraculous healings have taken place at Medjugorje. This is why many Catholics today adore Mary and pray to her. They think she is actually communicating from heaven to individuals and that she must be prayed to and adored.

Since that 1843 claim was written, there have been at least two fairly recent papal encyclicals about Mary: Pope Paul VI, 1966, “Christi Matri” calling for special devotions during the month of October invoking Mary’s intercession for peace. Then Pope John Paul II, March 1987, “Redemptoris Mater” – Mary’s special place in the plan of salvation, confirming the title “Mother of the Church” which had been given to her in 1964.

This explains both how adoration of Mary had reached the pitch claimed in 1843, and thereafter, right to this very day. The point of real importance is that such papal statements are elevated due to the absence of any biblical scriptures that might be seen by Catholics as giving them a biblical basis for this immense authority in heaven that they believe Mary to have.

This means that the one answer to your 1a) and 1b) questions is - "There is none."

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    The statement of St. Louis de Montfort touches the undefined subject matter of Mary as Mediatrix of All Graces, which the present holy father, Pope Francis is clearly not favourable in defining and does not accept this as doctrine. There are a few saints in favour of promoting this doctrine, amongst them are St. Louis Marie de Montfort and St. Maximillian Marie Kolbe.
    – Ken Graham
    Oct 31 at 14:39
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    Medjugorje apparitions are one of the most controversial of all so-called Catholic apparitions and has not been deemed as worthy of belief as yet. I have always discouraged fellow Catholics from using private revelations to defend doctrine as Catholics are free to not to believe in them. Adoration belongs to God alone and even the Church recognizes this this. We may honour Our Lady though veneration and ask her help through intercessionary prayer, just like we would ask a follow Christian to pray for us. Again the Church does not promote adoration of Mary, the Mother of Jesus.
    – Ken Graham
    Oct 31 at 14:53
  • Sub tuum praesidium clearly shows that asking Mary’s help through prayer was well founded in the Early Church. It is a Christian hymn and prayer. It’s the oldest known Marian prayer and the oldest preserved extant hymn to Mary as Theotokos. It dates to the ca. 250 AD and is well known among the Catholic church, the Eastern Orthodox church and the Oriental Orthodox church. Claiming that “the idea [Mary’s intercession] did not develop until centuries after Catholicism became integral to the Roman empire, and this teaching formed as a result of papal decrees,” is quite erroneous.
    – Ken Graham
    Nov 1 at 6:34
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    @Ken Graham That oldest known prayer and hymn to Mary as Theotokos seems to have an imprecise date. To me, the end of the 3rd and 4th centuries seems to be when the Catholic church was getting integrated into the Roman Empire. "Kerygma is the word of salvation, understood as the word which is constitutive for the coming of salvation" and "it is always the expression of one thing only: the 'word of Christ' (Rom 10:17)." (Karl Rhaner Ency. p797) Which is why I said that "The Marian dogmas are all derived from a non-kerygmatic understanding of theotokos" hence the church cannot promote adoration
    – Anne
    Nov 1 at 11:42
  • -1 there's not "none" there's clearly "some" even if it is a stretch to the imaginations of people who aren't apt to ponder such things in the first place. Some people remark that they can use the Bible to prove anything, if that's the case, I'd think you could prove this. Jesus was born of Mary, He was subject to her on earth, it stands to reason He'd listen to her in Heaven, that's all St. Louis was saying.
    – Peter Turner
    Nov 1 at 17:16
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What is the biblical basis for Mary being given immense authority in heaven?

One of the strongest biblical basis is the Wedding at Cana, with Jesus saying..

"My hour has not yet come..

Biblical account

John 2:1-11 states that Jesus was at a wedding (Seudat Nissuin) in Cana with his disciples. Jesus' mother (unnamed in John's Gospel) told Jesus, "They have no wine," and Jesus replied, "Woman, what concern is that to you and to me? My hour has not yet come." His mother then said to the servants, "Do whatever he tells you." (John 2:3-5). Jesus ordered the servants to fill containers with water and to draw out some and take it to the chief steward (waiter). After tasting it, without knowing where it came from, the steward remarked to the bridegroom that he had departed from the custom of serving the best wine first by serving it last (John 2:6-10). John adds that: "Jesus did this, the first of his signs, in Cana of Galilee, and it revealed his glory; and his disciples believed in him" (John 2:11).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_at_Cana

What have we notice at the passage. Jesus said, "My hour has not yet come", it means if we connect this to John6:38, when Jesus said, "I have come not to do my will but the Will of the Father who sent me.."

We can see, that both the will of Jesus and the Will of the Father are perfectly united, and the hour of Jesus depends on the Will of the Father. But this two powerful Wills have to bend, because the chosen Woman had exercise the power of Her intercession, seeing the need to supply even a miracle to meet the needs of the people in the wedding celebration.

And if we contrast this to a child Jesus at the age of twelve, who was eager to start His preaching ministry or salvific mission was met by a troubling Mother, worried at the tender age of Jesus, with a young body, because Mary knew Jesus fate. The young mind and body of Jesus at the age of twelve will not endure the Passion, and so, St.Luke described, what happened next...The young Jesus must submit and obey Mary and Joseph in seclusion, to further form his body and more importantly for Jesus to "grew in wisdom and grace" before fulfilling His role as Messiah.

Back to Wedding at Cana, the young Jesus is now a grown-up with a body well-chiseled and strong due to St.Joseph teaching him carpentry works. It's now the perfect time for Jesus, but the thirty years old Jesus, think "his hour has not yet come". But the powerful Woman who was transformed from a "lowly handmaid to a Queen Priest" by the ordination of a Celestial Prophet, a cherub, position nearest to the Throne of God, had ordained the lowly handmaid into a Sovereign Queen, saying AVE MARIA!, HAIL MARY!, proclaiming that the handmaid is now a Queen.

"The Annunciation was Mary's ordination into a Royal Priest, a Queen Priest", so that She can worthily bear in Her pure womb, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.

And Mary, cannot offer Her famous Fiat or sacrifice, offering Her body, mind, soul and will for the Will of the Father be done in Her. If Mary was not ordained into royal priesthood by Archangel Gabriel, Mary's Fiat will not be acceptable to God. Why? Only a Priest can offer a pleasing sacrifice to the Abba Father.

"Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already men who offer the gifts prescribed by the law” ( Hebrews 8:3-4 )

Take note High Priest, so Mary royal priesthood is not equivalent to baptismal priesthood, because Mary does not need baptism, She was born without original sin nor tainted by it.

In closing. the Wedding At Cana is the stand alone verse, a powerful passage that shows that Mary the lowly handmaid transformed into a Sovereign Queen can command Jesus the God-Man and the Abba Father, because of Her powerful intercession.

Jesus, "My hour has not yet come..." was change into, "They have no more wine"..and Jesus obliged and the Abba Father accepted the request.

"Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum"...is not just an angel's greetings it is a Heavenly formula for ordaining the lowly handmaid to transform Her into a Sovereign Queen, as the 17th Century Theologians ponder.

This is the reason why Satan and the fallen angels trembled in fear, because all of them are now subject to Mary and must bow down like Archangel Gabriel did to the Sovereign Queen of all Angels.

Ave!

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  • She did not command Jesus or God. She commanded the servants to obey Jesus. Nov 2 at 11:56
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    @MikeBorden, Jesus could say no to servants but he said yes because of his mother.
    – Grasper
    Nov 2 at 16:03
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What is the biblical basis for Mary being given immense authority in heaven?

In St. Louis Marie de Montfort’s (31 January 1673 – 28 April 1716) True Devotion to Mary, a manuscript written in the Early 1700’s, is found the following quote:

... in heaven and on earth everything, even to God Himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin, they mean to say that the authority which God has been well pleased to give her is so great, that it seems as if she has the same power as God, and that her prayers and petitions are so powerful with God, that they always pass for commandments with His Majesty, who never resists the prayer of His dear Mother, because she is always humble and conformed to His Will.

Jesus was born of a woman called Mary and He was subject to her while on earth; thus it stands to reason He would listen to her in Heaven, that is all St. Louis was trying to saying. Jesus within his humanity and divinity was like us in all things except sin. As such he honoured both his Father in heaven and his mother. After all he set the example of obeying all the commandments including the fourth one: Honour thy father and thy mother" (Hebrew: כַּבֵּד אֶת אָבִיךָ וְאֶת אִמֶּךָ לְמַעַן יַאֲרִכוּן יָמֶיךָ).

There are several potential problems with the above text in question that I would like to tackle here briefly. Clarity is always a good starting point when dealing with Catholic doctrine, especially undefined areas in faith.

First of all, I am not a theologian, but I do have a interest in this subject area! My great-great-great uncle was the Cardinal Désiré-Félicien-François-Joseph Mercier who was one of the first forerunners to petition the Holy See to define and declare Mary as Mediatrix of All Graces. Thus my interest in this domain.

Potential problems with the quote are as follows:

  • Devotional manuscript and not a doctrinal manuscript.
  • Poor English translation of a 18th century document.
  • Manuscript is not complete.
  • Lack of biblical support.

St. Louis Marie de Montfort’s True Devotion to Mary was somehow discovered 150 years after his death and was written as a devotion text and not as a doctrinal thesis. He, nevertheless, did predict that it would be lost and rediscovered after his death.

St. Louis penned these prophetic words:

“I clearly foresee that raging beasts will come in fury to tear to pieces with their diabolical teeth this little book and the one the Holy Spirit made use of to write it, or they will cause it at least to lie hidden in the darkness and silence of a chest and so prevent it from seeing the light of day.

“They will even attack and persecute those who read it and put into practice what it contains. But no matter! So much the better!

“It even gives me encouragement to hope for great success at the prospect of a mighty legion of brave and valiant soldiers of Jesus and Mary, both men and women, who will fight the devil, the world, and corrupt nature in the perilous times that are sure to come.” (True Devotion to Mary, n. 114). - The Miraculous Discovery of St. Louis De Montfort’s True Devotion to Mary, Hidden for 150 Years

Once again St. Louis Marie Grignion de Montfort wrote in a style of French that existed in the 18th century and may have been poorly translated into modern English in several areas. This is a question ultimately the the Catholic Church will have to face, when and if she desires to define Mary’s title of Mediatrix of All Graces. Theologians are serious divided on this issue and this manuscript directly touches this subject matter. How St. Louis Marie interpreted his thoughts are expressed in his manuscripts.

This is new ground for the Church and even Pope Francis is not in favour of such things. Once again, Pope Francis says Mary is not the ‘co-redemptrix’

This brings into another problem. The texts in question is incomplete, that is to say, lost to history. In other words some of the “book” is missing and thus incomplete. This makes it more of a challenge to understand St. Louis Marie’s thoughts. The whole first chapter is missing and we do not even know the original title. The book True Devotion to Mary is known by other titles including Treatise on True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin.

The book is written as a devotional guide and not as a doctrinal dissertation. St. Louis Marie was not a professor of a school of higher education, but rather a missionary by profession. He has equally not been declared a Doctor of the Church by any Sovereign Pontiff. Perhaps on day, it may happen, but I do not think it will be anytime soon as it would require an immense amount research by many theologians.

As for the question of biblical support, there is not an abundance of Sacred Texts that the Church May call upon for support. But that does not mean that Scriptures are devoid of it either.

If Mary has an immense authority in heaven, it must surely be in connection to her Divine Mother as the Mother of Our Redeemer, Jesus Christ and is seen as the Queen Mother and Mediatrix of All Graces. Please note these subjects are yet not completely defined, although many papal documents do speak about it.

Queen of Heaven is a title given to the Virgin Mary, by Christians mainly of the Catholic Church and, to a lesser extent, in Anglicanism, Lutheranism, and Eastern Orthodoxy. The title is a consequence of the First Council of Ephesus in the fifth century, in which Mary was proclaimed Theotokos in Greek, a title rendered in Latin as Deipara or Mater Dei, in English "Mother of God".

The Catholic teaching on this subject is expressed in the papal encyclical Ad Caeli Reginam, issued by Pope Pius XII in 1954. It states that Mary is called Queen of Heaven because her son, Jesus Christ, is the king of Israel and the heavenly king of the universe; indeed, the Davidic tradition of Israel recognized the mother of the king as the Queen Mother of Israel.

The title "Queen of Heaven" has long been a Catholic tradition, included in prayers and devotional literature and seen in Western art in the subject of the Coronation of the Virgin from the High Middle Ages, long before it was given a formal definition status by the Church.

Theological basis

Queen of Heaven is one of many Queen titles used of Mary, mother of Jesus. The title derived in part from the ancient Catholic teaching that Mary, at the end of her earthly life, was bodily and spiritually assumed into heaven, and that she is there honored as Queen.

Pius XII explained on the theological reasons for her title of Queen in a radio message to Fatima of May 13, 1946, Bendito seja:

He, the Son of God, reflects on His heavenly Mother the glory, the majesty and the dominion of His kingship, for, having been associated to the King of Martyrs in the ... work of human Redemption as Mother and cooperator, she remains forever associated to Him, with a practically unlimited power, in the distribution of the graces which flow from the Redemption. Jesus is King throughout all eternity by nature and by right of conquest: through Him, with Him, and subordinate to Him, Mary is Queen by grace, by divine relationship, by right of conquest, and by singular choice [of the Father].

In his 1954 encyclical Ad caeli reginam ("To the Queen of Heaven"), Pius XII asserts that Mary deserves the title because she is Mother of God, because she is closely associated as the New Eve with Jesus' redemptive work, because of her preeminent perfection and because of her intercessory power. Ad caeli reginam states that the main principle on which the royal dignity of Mary rests is her Divine Motherhood. ... So with complete justice St. John Damascene could write: "When she became Mother of the Creator, she truly became Queen of every creature."

Biblical basis

In the Hebrew Bible, under some Davidic kings, the gebirah, the "Great Lady", usually the Mother of the King, held great power as advocate with the king. In 1 Kings 2:20, Solomon said to his Mother Bathsheba, seated on a throne at his right, "Make your request, Mother, for I will not refuse you." William G. Most sees here a sort of type of Mary.

In the New Testament, the title has several biblical sources. At the Annunciation, the archangel Gabriel announces that [Jesus] "... will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David. He will rule over the house of Jacob forever and his reign will be without end."(Luke 1:32) The biblical precedent in ancient Israel is that the mother of the king becomes the queen mother. Mary's queenship is a share in Jesus’ kingship.

The Catholic Church views Mary as the woman clothed with the sun in Revelation 12:1–3: "A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads." The Church accepts Revelation 12 as a reference to Mary, Israel, and the Church as a three-fold symbolism through the Book of Isaiah and affirms Mary as the mother of Jesus as the prophetic fulfilment described in Revelation 12 (cf. Isaiah 7:14, 26:17, 54:1, 66:7).

In the Hebrew Bible, the term "queen of heaven" appears in a context unrelated to Mary. The prophet Jeremiah, writing c. 628 BC, refers to a "queen of heaven" in chapters 7 and 44 of the Book of Jeremiah when he scolds the people for having "sinned against the Lord" due to their idolatrous practices of burning incense, making cakes, and pouring out drink offerings to her. This title was probably given to Asherah, a Canaanite idol and goddess worshipped in ancient Israel and Judah.

Historical practice

In the fourth century, St. Ephrem called Mary "Lady" and "Queen". Later Church fathers and doctors continued to use the title. A text probably coming from Origen (died c. 254) gives her the title domina, the feminine form of Latin dominus, Lord. That same title also appears in many other early writers, e.g., Jerome, and Peter Chrysologus. The first Mariological definition and basis for the title of Mary Queen of Heaven developed at the Council of Ephesus, where Mary was defined to be the Mother of God. The Council fathers specifically approved this version against the opinion, that Mary is "only" the mother of Jesus. Nobody had participated in the life of her son more, than Mary, who gave birth to the Son of God.

The word "Queen" is common during and after the sixth century. Hymns of the 11th to 13th centuries address Mary as queen: “Hail, Holy Queen,” “Hail, Queen of Heaven,” “Queen of Heaven.” The Dominican rosary and the Franciscan crown, as well as numerous invocations in Mary’s litany, celebrate her queenship. For centuries she has been invoked as the Queen of Heaven.

At the Wedding at Cana, the Will of the Father whom Jesus followed was changed, though the intercession of a Queen.

Let us remember that Mary is constantly pointing others to Jesus:

His mother saith to the waiters: Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye. - John 2:5

Many are the secrets that Mary must have guarded in her heart and were not revealed.

For a Catholic definition of what constitutes adoration, I recommend reading the lengthy article published in the Catholic Encyclopedia on the subject matter.

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  • Seems unfortunate that some use biblical basis questions to argue points of doctrine with other denominations as seen in other answers here. If some believe there is no biblical basis for the subject matter, say so; but please remove the arguments within the posts as they do not pertain to the question. Denominations should not have to defend themselves through the comments which is not part of the question field.
    – Ken Graham
    Nov 1 at 15:15
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    Dang, all my great great great uncles are freemasons... Sorry to hear about your friends, I can see where you're coming from on some of your other posts now.
    – Peter Turner
    Nov 1 at 17:15

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