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The following is what he stated.

"Postmortality One of Adam’s duties in his postmortal role as father of the human race is to help prepare his posterity for the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Daniel 7:22 [Dan. 7:22] speaks of the return of the Ancient of Days, which the Prophet Joseph Smith said “means the oldest man, our Father Adam, Michael, [who] will call his children together and hold a council with them to prepare them for the coming of the Son of Man” (Teachings, 157). This preparatory council will be held at Adam-ondi-Ahman (see D&C 116:1; Teachings, 122) and will be attended by the Savior (see Teachings, 158)."

Also, Smith says that Michael, will call his children together and hold a council with them to prepare them for the coming of the Son of Man. This preparatory council will be held at "Adam-ondi-Ahman."

According to Mormon sources this council meeting will take place at "Adam-ondi-Ahman." This is a historic site in Daviess County Missouri, about five miles south of Jameson. It is located along the east bluffs above the Grand River.

According to Daniel 7:1 and the entire context of Daniel 7, Daniel has a dream/visions of God at judgment. This "begs" the question, who has visions of Adam being the "Ancient of Days" and calling for a council meeting in the state of Missouri?

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  • See Adam Kadmon and Last Adam.
    – user46876
    Oct 2, 2021 at 21:31
  • can you clarify your last question? the wording looks off (which 'who' (Daniel/Joseph/someone else) are you referring too)?
    – depperm
    Oct 3, 2021 at 12:44
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    Why do we think Joseph Smith needed a biblical basis? He did lots of things based on a "direct revelation from God". Oct 3, 2021 at 19:10
  • @DJClayworth So others can see and learn for themselves that the whole of Mormonism is based on Smith's own "fertile imagination" and not the Bible, that's why and my thread is just one example that proves it.
    – Mr. Bond
    Oct 3, 2021 at 20:09
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    So you aren't interested in actually learning about other denomination's beliefs, merely trying to attack with gotcha questions (So others can see and learn for themselves that the whole of Mormonism is based on Smith's own "fertile imagination" and not the Bible, that's why and my thread is just one example that proves it)?
    – depperm
    Oct 4, 2021 at 11:07

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There isn't much more scriptural basis for the above.

Joseph Smith was a prophet, seer, and revelator.1 Daniel was a prophet as well. Both were capable of receiving revelation from God about the future.

A person who has been called by and speaks for God. As a messenger of God, a prophet receives commandments, prophecies, and revelations from God. ... On occasion, prophets may be inspired to foretell the future for the benefit of mankind.

A person authorized of God to see with spiritual eyes things that God has hidden from the world. ... A seer knows the past, present, and future.

Communication from God to His children on earth. Revelation may come through the Light of Christ and the Holy Ghost by way of inspiration, visions, dreams, or visits by angels.

Two additional scriptures do come to mind.

D&C 107:53-57 tells not only of a similar event (Adam meeting in Adam-ondi-Ahman with other priesthood holders before the Lord came), but also of recording/fortelling things to come (in book of Enoch, which is lost scripture)

53 Three years previous to the death of Adam, he called Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, and Methuselah, who were all high priests, with the residue of his posterity who were righteous, into the valley of Adam-ondi-Ahman, and there bestowed upon them his last blessing.

54 And the Lord appeared unto them, and they rose up and blessed Adam, and called him Michael, the prince, the archangel.

55 And the Lord administered comfort unto Adam, and said unto him: I have set thee to be at the head; a multitude of nations shall come of thee, and thou art a prince over them forever.

56 And Adam stood up in the midst of the congregation; and, notwithstanding he was bowed down with age, being full of the Holy Ghost, predicted whatsoever should befall his posterity unto the latest generation.

57 These things were all written in the book of Enoch, and are to be testified of in due time.

Matt 25:14-30

It is sufficient to know that it is a gathering of the Priesthood of God from the beginning of this earth down to the present, in which reports will be made and all who have been given dispensations (talents) will declare their keys and ministry and make report of their stewardship according to the parable.2


Daniel 7:9-13

9 ¶ I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Son of Man is referring to Jesus Christ.

Ancient of Days is referring to Adam. There is no physical description of Adam to compare against and living 930 years (Gen 5:5) would probably bring about a few white hairs.

Further explanation from The Man Adam2 article

the Prophet Joseph Smith said: “Daniel in his seventh chapter speaks of the Ancient of Days; he means the oldest man, our Father Adam, Michael, he will call his children together and hold a council with them to prepare them for the coming of the Son of Man. He (Adam) is the father of the human family, and presides over the spirits of all men, and all that have had the keys must stand before him in this grand council. … The Son of Man stands before him, and there is given him glory and dominion. Adam delivers up his stewardship to Christ, that which was delivered to him as holding the keys of the universe, but retains his standing as head of the human family.”

President Joseph Fielding Smith offered the following explanation: “This gathering of the children of Adam, where the thousands, and the tens of thousands are assembled in the judgment, will be one of the greatest events this troubled earth has ever seen. At this conference, or council, all who have held keys of dispensations will render a report of their stewardship. Adam will do likewise, and then he will surrender to Christ all authority. Then Adam will be confirmed in his calling as the prince over his posterity and will be officially installed and crowned eternally in this presiding calling. Then Christ will be received as King of kings, and Lord of lords. We do not know how long a time this gathering will be in session, or how many sessions may be held at this grand council. It is sufficient to know that it is a gathering of the Priesthood of God from the beginning of this earth down to the present, in which reports will be made and all who have been given dispensations (talents) will declare their keys and ministry and make report of their stewardship according to the parable.

LDS rely on modern revelation of the interpretation for Daniel 7 on who the ancient of days is.

1 Prophet, Seer, and Revelator

2 The Man Adam

emphasis mine

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    The issue is NOT whether Daniel or Smith are prophets of God, but whether or not the Ancient of Days is the first created man Adam. You have to read the context of Daniel 7. Vs9, "And the Ancient of Days took His seat; His venture was like white snow, And the hair of His head like pure wool. And vs13, I kept looking and behold like the clouds of heaven One like the Son of Man was coming. And He came up to the Ancient of Days that all the peoples might serve Him, And His kingdom is one. (paraphrasing) This is NOT Adam but a description of the resurrected Jesus Christ of the end times.
    – Mr. Bond
    Oct 3, 2021 at 16:35
  • @Mr.Bond will edit question to address that concern
    – depperm
    Oct 3, 2021 at 18:04
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    @MikeBorden the LDS teach that the garden of Eden was in USA, so yes source
    – depperm
    Oct 3, 2021 at 22:44
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    @Mr.Bond That's thought completely backwards. If there isn't biblical writing as to who the Ancient of Days is, one should be wary of any interpretation as to the identity that doesn't even claim to be prophetic. Because at that point, it's really just making stuff up. The Bible even states that this is how it should be interpreted, in 2 Peter 1:20-21.
    – kutschkem
    Oct 5, 2021 at 13:41
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    @Mr.Bond Too late to edit my comment, but what I mean is: First comes belief that Joseph was a prophet, for example through personal revelation that the Book of Mormon is true. Only afterwards comes the acceptance of that interpretation, which Joseph claimed came through revelation. There is literally no claim that this interpretation is backed by any other verse in the Bible. The claim here is God told him what this means. If some theologician said "Ancient of Days" means oldest man means Adam, would you have less of a problem with that? That would be more made up, not less.
    – kutschkem
    Oct 6, 2021 at 7:05
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No biblical basis at all. The basis is revelation to him. So, the answer to "who has visions of Adam being the "Ancient of Days" and calling for a council meeting in the state of Missouri?" is Joseph Smith. Or, if you accept the interpretation, then of course Daniel, although Daniel of course has no knowledge of a state of Missouri.

D&C 116

1 Spring Hill is named by the Lord Adam-ondi-Ahman, because, said he, it is the place where Adam shall come to visit his people, or the Ancient of Days shall sit, as spoken of by Daniel the prophet.

Note that although this isn't explicitely coming from a context of the Bible translation work he was doing, it might be related. During that time, he pondered a lot over many scripture and received insights as to how to interpret them.

In D&C 107, which came in 1835, three years before D&C 116, Adam-ondi-Ahman got introduced as the place where Adam gave his final blessing to his posterity, similarly to how Jacob did in the Bible. However this did not, as far as I can see, include any reference to Daniel or a later meeting there with a resurrected Adam. Or even where this place exactly was. 1838, while close to Spring Hill, D&C 116 came and identified the place, as well as include this interpretation which connects Adam and the Ancient of Days.

I am not sure what it is you have against this interpretation (other than the fact that it comes "out of nowhere" as a revelation to Joseph Smith):

If the Ancient of Days is Adam, then what we see in Daniel 7 is Jesus returning (one like the Son of man), and Adam (the Ancient of Days) returning the dominion that was given him in Genesis to Jesus.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1994/01/the-man-adam?lang=eng

Of this council, a meeting that will be a preliminary appearance of the Savior (prior to his coming in glory), the Prophet Joseph Smith said: “Daniel in his seventh chapter speaks of the Ancient of Days; he means the oldest man, our Father Adam, Michael, he will call his children together and hold a council with them to prepare them for the coming of the Son of Man. He (Adam) is the father of the human family, and presides over the spirits of all men, and all that have had the keys must stand before him in this grand council. … The Son of Man stands before him, and there is given him glory and dominion. Adam delivers up his stewardship to Christ, that which was delivered to him as holding the keys of the universe, but retains his standing as head of the human family.”

President Joseph Fielding Smith offered the following explanation: “This gathering of the children of Adam, where the thousands, and the tens of thousands are assembled in the judgment, will be one of the greatest events this troubled earth has ever seen. At this conference, or council, all who have held keys of dispensations will render a report of their stewardship. Adam will do likewise, and then he will surrender to Christ all authority. Then Adam will be confirmed in his calling as the prince over his posterity and will be officially installed and crowned eternally in this presiding calling. Then Christ will be received as King of kings, and Lord of lords.

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  • "No biblical basis at all" +1 Oct 5, 2021 at 12:47
  • +1 your answer is a bit clearer
    – depperm
    Oct 5, 2021 at 13:45
  • Any reasons for down votes?
    – depperm
    Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26

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