My specific question is "WHO are these so-called council of Gods and "WHERE" did they come from? How does the LDS Church reconcile this with what God stated at Isaiah 44:6 and Isaiah 44:24?

Isaiah 44:6,"Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel And his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts; I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God beside Me."

Isaiah 44"24, "Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, and the one who formed you from the womb, I, the Lord, am the maker of all things, Stretching out the heavens by Myself, And spreading out the earth all alone."

My question came from the following LDS site: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1971/04/the-king-follett-sermon?lang=eng

"A Council of the Gods

In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted (prepared) a plan to create the world and people in it. When we begin to learn this way, we begin to learn the only true God, and what kind of a being we have got to worship. Having a knowledge of God, we begin to know how to approach Him, and how to ask so as to receive an answer."

Disclaimer: My question has nothing to do with the following question I posted here: The Mormon Church teaches that Jesus Christ created under the direction of Heavenly Father and He did not create the world "out of nothing."

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    And God said, Let us make man in our image, Genesis 1:26. I take it that the OP is asking about the matter of a plurality of gods. Genesis states 'God' (or 'Deity') - a collective noun - said let us. Thus the matter hinges on the Hebrew word elohim. (Up-voted +1.)
    – Nigel J
    Commented Jul 20, 2021 at 21:42

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Who is the council of gods?


In the premortal life, our Heavenly Father called a Grand Council to present His plan for our progression1

The occasion in premortal life when the Father presented His plan to His spirit children who would come to this earth.2

Some of the references (grand council or grand councilors) may be referring to a more specific group, in which case it may be the greatest of the spirits (those who would be prophets like Abraham)

Abraham 3:22-25

22 Now the Lord had shown unto me, Abraham, the intelligences that were organized before the world was; and among all these there were many of the noble and great ones;

23 And God saw these souls that they were good, and he stood in the midst of them, and he said: These I will make my rulers; for he stood among those that were spirits, and he saw that they were good; and he said unto me: Abraham, thou art one of them; thou wast chosen before thou wast born.

24 And there stood one among them that was like unto God, and he said unto those who were with him: We will go down, for there is space there, and we will take of these materials, and we will make an earth whereon these may dwell;

25 And we will prove them herewith, to see if they will do all things whatsoever the Lord their God shall command them;

Where did they come from?

Mankind are His, God's, creations/children and we were with Him in the preexistence.3


Isaiah 44:6

6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

The LDS believe there are other gods and man can become gods, but none that they worship. No reconciliation.

They acknowledge the Father as the ultimate object of their worship, the Son as Lord and Redeemer, and the Holy Spirit as the messenger and revealer of the Father and the Son.4

See also:

Isaiah 44:24

24 Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

The LDS believe Jesus Christ did create the heavens and the earth under the direction of Heavenly Father.5

1 Gospel Topics: Council in Heaven

2 Guide to Scriptures: Council in Heaven

3 Gospel Topics: Premortality

4 Gospel Topics: Godhead

5 Gospel Topics: Creation

Other articles related (not official LDS sources):

All emphasis mine

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    The Council is "Us/Mankind/Gods" in the premortal life. Where in the Bible does it say man had a premortal life before the beginning at Genesis 1:1 and the creation of man at Genesis 1:26? What your doing is "assuming" the BoM, the Book of Abraham/Pearl of Great Price" are true. Also, Isaiah 40:12-14, especially vs14, "With whom did He/God consult and who gave Him understanding?" Romans 11:34, "Who has known the mind of the Lord, or who became His COUNSELOR?" And where did Jesus come from? How could He assist God when God said He created all alone and by Himself? Prove your position.
    – Mr. Bond
    Commented Jul 21, 2021 at 0:36
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    Yes, the LDS church assumes those books are true. That is the position of the church. This site asks what various faiths believe. It does not ask them to "prove" anything to another person.
    – BLT
    Commented Jul 21, 2021 at 1:55
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    @Mr.Bond the LDS believe the Bible but they also don't believe it to be the sole source of doctrine or scripture. You will not find all LDS beliefs spelled out in just the bible.
    – depperm
    Commented Jul 21, 2021 at 14:02
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    @Mr.Bond I don't believe our sources disagree, just you don't agree with my sources (which is fine but realize you asked an LDS perspective question, so I'm going to use them). I've attempted to point out how/where LDS beliefs differ. I cannot reconcile LDS teachings with your view-point/understanding if you are unwilling to look at where LDS are coming from.
    – depperm
    Commented Jul 21, 2021 at 17:44
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    @Mr.Bond (a) The LDS Church believes Jeremiah 1:5 and Job 38:7 evidence a premortal existence. Whether or not that's believable isn't relevant on this Stack, right? The point isn't to argue with anyone about whether or not their tradition is true, but to learn about and understand their tradition.
    – JBH
    Commented Jul 29, 2021 at 18:37

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