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How do Unitarians explain Hebrews 1:10-12?

10 And,

“In the beginning, Lord, you founded the earth,

and the heavens are the work of your hands;

11 they will perish, but you remain;

they will all wear out like clothing;

12 like a cloak you will roll them up,

and like clothing they will be changed.

But you are the same,

and your years will never end.” (NRSV)

These verses are quoted from Psalm 102:25-27, where they are addressed to God, and are applied to Christ in Hebrews 1:10-12

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This is a reference to God who created all things aka Gen 1.

It is being re-applied to Jesus. Not to rewrite what was truth, but to add another dimension to it.

We see this pattern with an Immanuel in Is 7:14 and Matt 1:33. The two have no factual connection but the similarities are reapplied with a new focus on the Christ. Many OT passages had fulfilment in their day, but as God designed in to His plan, have much greater significance in Christ.

We can read on to Heb 2:5

5 For He did not subject to angels the world to come, about which we are speaking.

So the context is now evident. Quoting an OT passage and focussing on a new application of it on Christ. This does not undo what was true, but adds the depth God designed in to His word of promise.

Jesus as the firstborn of a new age (Col 1:15,18), which includes all men as brethren (Rom 8:29), is the one who may take the credit for what he accomplished on the cross when he declared, ‘it is finished!’

We can see the initial thread of the message from v1

1 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, 2 in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom He also made the ages. This last word (ages) is usually translated world or universe which is grossly incorrect. Heb 1:1-2

So Jesus is the figurehead of a new age, even the creator of it as the man given all authority by his Father - and duly deserved!

So the Heb reference in focus is a reiteration of an old glorification of God, now being shared with His triumphant son by the writer of Hebrews.

Jesus being made heir is an absurd concept if (as many presume) he made everything to begin with.

https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/verses/hebrews-1-10 For more info.

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  • God "appointed" the Son as heir and there is no information here as to when that appointment was made. Since His "going forth is of old, from ancient days - Micah 5:2" it is most likely that this appointment has the same time reference and predates the incarnation. Jan 14 at 13:15
  • When you correctly interpret the ages (and not world etc), this is not pre creation, but related to ‘these last days’, firstborn as Colossians etc. There is no placement in scripture of Jesus before his birth, none except as the one to come. Your Mic ref is simply a reference to this one to come as planned from the foundation. Unless one reads in that which is simply not there.
    – steveowen
    Jan 14 at 19:22
  • Logos was a "He" (masculine 3rd person singular) in the beginning when He was with God and when He was God (John 1:3). That did not suddenly begin when He was made flesh so many thousands of years later. What God says will happen is already so. For example: We are seated with Christ (Ephesians 2:6). God is not temporal. Jan 15 at 3:49
  • A person can’t be with and God at same time. Much like Jesus who sits at the right hand of God -how then can he be God too!? Many unhelpful assumptions are made about this all alleged person logos. There are much stronger truths consistently made that render this construct invalid. Jesus IS what God says will happen, he IS God’s word made flesh. If this person thing runs full course, we need a two-natured Jesus who can die and yet not die - totally unscriptural.
    – steveowen
    Jan 15 at 4:01
  • "...and the Word was with God and the Word was God". No assumptions. The Word was made flesh. That flesh assumed our sin. That flesh died for our sin and rose for our justification. Heaven and earth will pass away but the Word will never pass away. It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing. Two natures. Jan 15 at 4:29

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