The following is the story that they tell. "Since all created things had a beginning, there was a time when God was alone. Countless ages ago, however, God became a Creator. Who was his first creation? The last book of the Bible identifies Jesus as “the beginning of the creation by God.” (Revelation 3:14) Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation.” That is so “because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things."

Since according to them, "there was a time when God was alone" why don't we see any evidence at Genesis 1 or 2 that Jesus was created before Adam and Eve? Why do they jump to Revelation 3:14, the last book of the Bible? Moreover, even if you jump to Proverbs 8:22 it's still well after Genesis 1,2 when man was created after the heavens and earth were created. (Genesis 1:1.)

Since they say "God was all alone" how do they justify the following that Jesus was with God here: :“The Word” was with Jehovah God “in the beginning,” when “the heavens and the earth” were created. He was the one to whom God said: “Let us make man in our image.” (John 1:1; Genesis 1:1, 26) Jehovah’s firstborn Son was there at his Father’s side, actively working with him. At Proverbs 8:22-31, he is represented as saying: “I came to be beside [the Creator] as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time.”

There is no mention of Jesus/Him being with God before the beginning as God's first creation before Genesis chapter one and two? Finally, and this is this is the real question I am asking. How could God who was all alone create anything "WITHOUT" Jesus Christ at John 1:3? "All things came into being by Him, and "WITHOUT" Him nothing came into being that has come into being." The JW quotes are from: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2005681

  • The angels applauded the founding of the earth so they were created before “in the beginning” JWs do not teach that the creation of the universe was the first creation by God. Jesus was directly created by Jehovah eons before. Angels were created by Jehovah with Jesus serving as the instrument through which they were created. – Kris Apr 10 at 18:21
  • @Kris There's the beginning of a fine answer. – KorvinStarmast Apr 11 at 18:19
  • @KorvinStarmast thanks but this is already answered in a previous 007 question – Kris Apr 11 at 18:58

The JW publication “Insight on the Scriptures” Vol. I has a section headed “Creation” from pp 526 with four and a half pages of text. Looking through it, I noted only one occurrence of Genesis 1:26 on p 527, but no mention or even a reference to Genesis 2:15-18. This is what is stated about Genesis 1:26 -

“In view of the close association of Jehovah and his only-begotten Son in creative activity and because that Son is “the image of the invisible God” (Col 1:15; 2Co 4:4), it was evidently to his only-begotten Son and master worker that Jehovah spoke in saying, “Let us make man in our image.” -Ge 1:26. After creating his only-begotten Son, Jehovah used him in bringing the heavenly angels into existence. This preceded the founding of the earth, as Jehovah revealed when questioning Job … (Job 38:4-7) It was after the creation of these heavenly spirit creatures that the material heavens and earth and all elements were made, or brought into existence. And, since Jehovah is the one primarily responsible for all this creative work, it is ascribed to him – Ne 9:6; Ps 136:1, 5-9. The Scriptures, in stating, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Ge 1:1) leave matters indefinite as to time.”

I note that the Jehovah’s Witnesses do not include the Holy Spirit in Genesis 1:26 but only believe that Jehovah was addressing the Son, and none other. I also note their sentence, “And, since Jehovah is the one primarily responsible for all this creative work, it is ascribed to him” as the likely explanation they might give for Genesis 2:15-18 where God (not the Son) is said to make Eve. Also, their claim that the phrase ‘in the beginning’ “leaves matters indefinite as to time” could be employed by them to deal with John 1:1, which you also ask about.

However, it remains for Jehovah’s Witnesses to offer any explanation as to why the Holy Spirit-inspired Genesis account makes no mention of the Son actually being the first created ‘thing’ Jehovah made and/or that this Son was utterly involved in all creation (apart from himself which, as you enquire about, does not appear to harmonize with John 1:3). The Holy Spirit, after all, IS credited with a crucial role in Genesis 1: 2. Hopefully, some Jehovah’s Witnesses will respond to outstanding issues, as what I have quoted from one of their books is by no means exhaustive. There will be other quotations that could be proffered, no doubt. I hope this partial answer encourages them to respond further.

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