4

Doing a study on grace and the fulfilment of the Law at present, and wonder if someone can assist: some texts definitely state that it is not humanly possible to perfectly keep the Law. Thus Paul in Romans 7:14-23, 9:31-32, Peter’s words in Acts 15:10, that the Law was a burden that the Israelites could not bear, etc.

However, other texts seem to indicate that keeping the Law was possible.
For instance, concerning the Law and the choice between obedience and disobedience proffered to the Israelites, Moses says (Deuteronomy 30:11),

‘Now what I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you or beyond your reach.’

In other words, they have no excuse for disobedience.

Also, in Philippians 3:6 Paul, in giving his credentials as an impeccable Pharisee, avers that he was, ‘as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.’
There is also the argument and thrust from Romans 7 to 8 that, as heeding of the Law is not possible, the solution is through the power of the Holy Spirit (thus 8:1-4).

A related query might be, then: did the OT Israelites for over 1,000 years go through the same sense of guilt, frustration, and inability to keep the Law as did Paul (cf. Romans 7), because of absence of the indwelling Spirit?

This would seem unfair, but would be in line with the Romans 7 theology of difficulty in keeping the Law. However, how would this square with Moses’ parting exhortation that the Law was ‘not difficult’ (Deut 30.11)?

A thought: might Paul's (and Peter's) comments perhaps have something to do with an attempt at perfectionism, which is attested in the Talmud among first century rabbis?

  • 2
    Remember, the law had built in sacrifices for atonement and so people who stood righteous before God were not people who didn't break the law they were people who did what was required of them when they broke the law – Adam Heeg Dec 21 '19 at 1:30
  • Is it possible that for Paul the Pharisee, The Law includes Oral Torah which has a lot more requirements than the Pentateuch? – GratefulDisciple May 3 at 0:07
1

This can be resolved by reviewing the context of each passage. In the Old Testament, God gives a Law, a divine moral law, to be kept by His chosen people. By saying, 'these are not beyond your reach, but you are able to keep them,' He speaks of a relative keeping of the Laws, not an absolute and unequivocally perfect keeping thereof, since, "there is no just man upon earth, that doth good, and sinneth not." (Eccles. 7:20).

However, in St. Paul's context, he adduces the fact that absolute keeping of the Law would be necessary if we are to ignore the grace that is the forgiveness necessary to make anything less than a perfect keeping of the laws possible. Therefore, the cross is preached, "that he himself may be [shown to be] just, as well as the justifier of him who is of the faith of Jesus Christ" (Rom. 3:26). Refusing the Gosple is refusing your lifeline, because it is by the gospel that all your tripping and faltering in the keeping of God's law are accounted and provided for.

| improve this answer | |
1

Is it possible to keep the law of Moses?
Yes, if you are Jesus.
No, if you are not.

The law had specific purposes. A few include:
1. Shows the Holy character of God.
2. Identifies what is and what is not sin.
3. Reveals to us our need for a Savior.

While the law identified sin, it was inadequate to make a man obey or be righteous.

When Paul said he was blameless, the question that must be asked is "blameless in whose eyes?" He is either referring to being blameless in his own eyes or the eyes of others. He was not referring to being blameless in Gods eyes.

Romans 3:20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

| improve this answer | |
1

Sorry this is a bit late for your seeing as you asked 4 months ago, but its a great question.

This will be mostly on Deut 30:11-14 and Romans 10:1-13.

Where Paul says "as touching the righteousness which is in the law, faultless" (Phil 3:6) he can only mean that his reputation amongst his fellow Pharisees was faultless based on their (and his) very shallow understanding of God's law, (including that it only required an external obedience). He wasn't in the least behind any of the other Pharisees in his reputation of godliness. But he does not mean he was faultless, but rather at the time he was a Pharisee he felt himself to be faultless.

"Did the OT Israelites for over 1,000 years go through the same sense of guilt, frustration, and inability to keep the Law as did Paul (cf. Romans 7), because of absence of the indwelling Spirit?"

No, most of them didn't give a fig what God's Law said because they were proud, stiff-necked, and rebellious. Those who did care to please God suffered guilt, frustration and inability until they came to put faith in the coming Messiah and to understand the way of salvation that their good God's gracious giving of the Law implied (see below). Though I'm not sure Paul is talking about gross sinful failure before his conversion, he is perhaps rather talking about the inner failures of a fallen nature after his conversion, which can only produce guilt when a saint loses sight of the free grace of God, that he is no longer under law but under grace, but certainly produces quite a lot (bucket loads) of frustration and sense of inability so that he growns who will deliver me from this body of death?... growns inwardly as we await the redemption of our bodies (Ro 8:26,27), but which also encourages him to look away from himself to Christ his righteousness restoring comfort, pray for forgiveness, and draw nearer to God.

Now about Deut 30:11-14 and Romans 10. In summary, Paul shows from this passage of Deuteronomy 30:11-14 that God gave to His people a blessed law, a law which had been kept already by another, that is the coming Messiah was going to keep it for them, and therefore salvation was never going to be by obedience to the moral law but by faith in Christ. Paul is saying this is the intended meaning of Moses, or at least, this is the intended meaning of the Holy Spirit when He gave these words to Moses.

Read the whole of Deut 30 and Romans 10:1-13. One thing to observe is that Paul makes a distinction between what Moses wrote (Ro 10:5) and what Moses said (Ro 10:6) (which is obvously itself written down else we wouldn't know what he said(!)). What he wrote is the law from God, the Law of Moses; what he said is maybe sometimes a gracious interpretation of God's intended meaning in giving the written word.

I give a flow chart to explain Romans 10:5-10 with some prior premises and some questions, becuase I think that is as clear as I can make it. Remember, Paul is saying that his interpretation of Deut 30:11-14 is the intended meaning in the original, probably by Moses, but certainly by the Holy Spirit:

(Prior) Premise 1: God is good.

(Prior) Premise 2: God has chosen a people to be his people.

(Prior) Premise 3: God is good towards his people.

Premise 4: God has given as a gift to his people his Law, the Law of Moses, which is the whole moral law. (They do not have to go searching for it either up into heaven or across the sea because it has been brought near to them as a gift: this is critical to the whole argument, read Deut 30:11-14 and make sure you see it: the Law of Moses has been given by God as a gift to his people. (This critical insight was gained from "Commentary on the New Testament Use of the Old Testament", Editors: G.K. Beale and D.A. Carson).

Premise 5: The Law of Moses (which is the whole moral law) brings a curse if it is not kept, but a blessing if it is kept (see earlier in Deut 30). This is referred to in Romans 10:5 "The man who does those things shall live by them."

Question 1: Did God give to his people a cursed gift?

If your answer is "Yes" then go back to Premise 1 and start reading again (if you keep saying "yes" then you are left in a continuous loop);

If your answer is "No" (because he could not have done because of premises 1-3) then continue with:

Question 2: So can his people keep his moral law? i.e. do they have a righteousness sufficient to keep the Law of Moses, the whole moral law?

If your answer is YES: then google search "Say not in your heart deuteronomy" and you will find:

Do not say in your heart, after the Lord your God has thrust them out before you, ‘It is because of my righteousness that the Lord has brought me in to possess this land,’ whereas it is because of the wickedness of these nations that the Lord is driving them out before you. Not because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart are you going in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations the Lord your God is driving them out from before you, and that he may confirm the word that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

Know, therefore, that the Lord your God is not giving you this good land to possess because of your righteousness, for you are a stubborn people. (Deuteronomy 9:4-6)

This is the passage that Paul is elliptically refering to at the beginning of Romans 10:6 "But the righteousness of faith begins in this way "Do not say in your heart"...etc. The one speaking in faith begins by affirming the soul has insufficient righteousness of itself.

If your answer was YES to question 2 then go back to Question 2 and start reading this post from there again and down. (You are again caught in a continuous loop.)

If your answer was NO then continue:

Question 3: Can the law be kept?

If your answer is NO then you are saying it was given as a cursed gift; go back to Premise 1 and start reading all again. You are again in a continuous loop.

If your answer is "YES, but it could not have been by the recipients", then you are saying in summary:

God has given to his people the gift of his commandment (Deut 30:11), the Law of Moses, which is the whole moral law; (his people do not have to go looking in impossible places to try to find it); this gift that God gave is a good blessed gift; but we cannot obey it and therefore for it to be a blessed gift then the commandment/Law must be given as a fully perfectly obeyed commandment, kept by someone else on behalf of God's people. The Law of Moses can be considered to be already obeyed at the time it was given, by the coming Messiah on behalf of his people.

That is the first part of the meaning. Now for the second part:-

So then the whole Mosaic Law has been given as a good gift, that is a Law which has been obeyed, and it can only be understood as such by those who agree with Deut 9:4-6 and thus acknowledge they cannot keep it themselves; and who receive it as good gift by faith, believing it is kept already for them.

Those who receive it in this manner now know they have an imputed righteousness, a righteousness they haven't worked for but received as a gift.

The question now becomes "Where is this gift, this righteousness?" The answer is this righteousness came down from heaven, and rose from the dead, in the person of the Son of God, and is now in your heart and on your lips.

So a Perfectly Obeyed Law is given to them as a gift, which is the same as the gift of an imputed righteousness.

For this commandment that I command you today is not too hard for you, neither is it far off. (Deut 30:11)

The Messiah has not yet come, but all that he will do has been promised by God, and the promises of God are all as good as done already, therefore you must see it as a law which is an Already Perfectly Kept Law, and therefore this Law is not too hard for you or too distant from you;

It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will ascend to heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ (Deut 30:12)

You might say it sounds as if this Already Perfectly Kept Law is up in Heaven and who will go and get it for us? But do not say you need to go and get it so that you can hear it and do it; because this Perfectly Kept Law has already come down from Heaven (it is the promise of God that he will come down from Heaven so it is as good as done);

Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?’ (Deut 30:13)

Here Moses does not mean who will go over the sea horizontally (ie from shore to shore) but, who will go vertically, and so is maintained the vertical picture: who will go up to Heaven or who will go down to the other side of the sea, meaning who will go beneath the seabed, a picture of Sheol, the grave. The Israelites of old who had wanted salvation, who recognised they were sinners and that they deserved the curse and death might have argued with Moses "But Moses, I deserve death, and so this Perfectly Kept Law needs to sort out my penalty; it sounds as if it needs to go down into the grave for me; is it down in the grave for me now? Is that where I need to get a righteousness from that pleases God? Moses replies "Do not think it is in the grave, beneath the sea, and who will go and get because it has come up from the grave already"

But the word is very near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you can do it. (Deut 30:14)

If you have believed and trusted in your good God, and seen yourself to be in need, and asked God to save you and He has answered your prayer, then this Already Perfectly Kept Law is in your heart and in your mouth already, that you may seek to obey it; but when you fail, as you will every day in many ways, do not think God is angry with you or you are under the curse of this Already Perfectly Kept Law, because it is a Perfectly Kept Law Already and therefore contains no curse. The one who has turned it into a Perfectly Kept Law Already is the Messiah who has kept it on your behalf. (So every day in those things where you fall humbly ask God for forgiveness and you will be forgiven, constantly praying for the assistance of God's Holy Spirit.)

And thus, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes" (Romans 10:4).

For your justification this Already Perfectly Kept Law is Christ, in your heart, the sure hope of glory.

For your salvation which (includes your sanctification) this Perfectly Kept Law is the Spirit of Christ working in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure, producing the fruit of the lips, confessing Jesus Christ as Lord to the glory of God the Father.

This was the intended meaning of the Holy Spirit, and probably Moses understood most if not all of what was meant, when he gave Deut 30:11-14. After all, Moses was himself saved by grace, through faith in the Divine Saviour who Moses knew would die for his (Moses's) sins and rise from the dead, and so Moses knew the Law he was writing about was an Obeyed Law pointing to the coming, perfectly sinless, Messiah.

So no, Deut 30:11-14 is not saying we can keep the law, quite the opposite in fact. Elliptically what it is saying is:

Jehovah Jireh, the LORD our Provider, will provide a sinless One, his Son, the LORD from Heaven above, to live a sinless life, to keep the law on behalf of his people, and to die for their sins, and thus to be the Perfectly Kept Law, that is to be the Righteousness, of all who believe on him.

And so each one will be able to say

"it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me, and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me." (Galatians 2:20).

Deuteronomy 30:11-14, then, tells us that the Law of Moses was given by God in his goodness to try to make us see that we cannot keep it, to try to break our stubborn stiff-necked hearts, to try to make us see we are under the wrath and curse of God, to try to make us flee from the wrath to come, to try to make us give up all hope of saving ourselves by our own works, and thus to make us flee to God's Righteousness, that is Jesus Christ, for our salvation and hope. Once we are saved this law tells us what pleases God, and we love him because he has first loved us and thus we seek to obey him.

Finally, we might be tempted to ask, "If that was Moses intended meaning then why did he not say it much more clearly? Those whom God softened and saved he first persuaded they were a stubborn stiff-necked people and made them look away from themselves for a Saviour. They recognised that they could not keep the Law of Moses, and so looked for a different way for the Law to be a blessing to them. All of these things, if we look carefully into Deuteronomy we should be able to see. Moses told them plenty enough for those to see who wanted to see (because God gave them a desire to see), the rest were blinded, even as so many, everywhere, are blinded today.

How we must thank the goodness of God in taking away the veil and giving his grace to see. Having seen it, how much we need to beg God to help us to show our appreciation of this way of his mercy by our daily repentance, seeking the help of his Holy Spirit, entirely clinging to Christ our Righteousness, as limpets cling for all their lives are worth to a Rock.

| improve this answer | |
  • "in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." - Romans 8:4 – Mike Borden May 4 at 12:37
  • @Mike Borden - Yes, (I might add it). Thanks – Andrew Shanks May 4 at 13:24
0

Yes it was impossible for people to keep the Law of Moses in the sense of NOT requiring a sacrifice for payment of your sins when you fall short.

When Paul speaks of himself as blameless as regards the law, he is not saying he was perfect in fulfilling all of the requirements once and for all, he knew he came short, just like the rest of us, but rather when he sinned he went to Jerusalem per the Law and had the priests take care of his sins via the sacrifice of another animal in his stead.

The idea behind Deut 30:11 is thus revealed.

For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.

is picked up by Paul at Romans 10:6:

But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

It is NOT to bring Christ via some "reenactment of Christ's sacrifice" as some teach sans blood, but rather the idea is this:

For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. Romans 10:5

We live by faith in Christ's completed work. Christ alone fulfilled the Law of Moses and the Prophets (Mat. 5:17)

Hope that helps a bit.

| improve this answer | |
0

I think the two verses provided in support of the notion that the Law could be obeyed by ordinary humans, are being misinterpreted.

Deuteronomy 30:11, e.g., from the KJV, says

" .. it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off".

"far off" is a better translation of the Hebrew rachowq, then the NIV translation quoted in the question above, that seems to imply the idea of it not being beyond reach, i.e., reachable or keepable. Actually, it is talking about the Law being not far off, but near, in the sense of it being known to them. This is supported in context also in the next few verses:

  • verse 12 - "It is not in heaven, that .."
  • verse 13 - "It is not beyond the sea, that .."
  • verse 14 - "But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it."

So it is not far off, in terms of being known to them. But that is very different from saying they would be able to keep it.

As for Philippians 3:6, that is a kind of hyperbole, describing in human terms how he had more in human terms than others, the point being (verses 7-9) that he counted it all as loss for Christ, and considered it better by far to be found in Him, not having his own righteousness of the law, but that which is through faith in Christ. That was the point he was making.

See what he writes elsewhere, e.g., Romans 3:23.

since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

| improve this answer | |

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.