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What I mean "all YEC" is : since from the past until now there is not one person of YEC believe that the earth is a ball shape.

For example, God said in :

Daniel 4:11 (ESV)
The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth

Matthew 4:8 (ESV)
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

Since if the earth is a ball shape then it's impossible that the bold event to occur, so is there any YEC who don't believe that the bold event in those two verses really happen ?

Also in the creation event :

Genesis 1:6 (ESV)
And God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.”

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    What does young-earth creationism have to do with a flat earth? People who believe in young-earth creationism do not believe that every phrase in the Bible must be understood in a woodenly literal way. Aug 10, 2018 at 20:26
  • christianity.stackexchange.com/a/2034/23657. Related
    – Kris
    Aug 11, 2018 at 1:19
  • @Nathaniel, Wiki said : "Young Earth creationists have claimed that their view has its earliest roots in ancient Judaism" So, though it has not been said as YEC, there were already Jewish people who believe that the earth is young in ancient times. So, there were "YEC" long time ago. How they believe that, I think it must be from a literal reading of the creation account in OT. I wonder, did this ancient "YEC" believe that the earth is spherical that time ?
    – karma
    Aug 11, 2018 at 19:57
  • @Kris, there is no "acceptable" answer in the link you gave me :). The Hebrew word "chug" can mean a circle like a coin besides a ball. If ancient Jews read other verses (for example in Daniel 4:11) - it seems more likely they will choose "chug" as a coin then a ball.
    – karma
    Aug 11, 2018 at 20:34
  • @karma, Context, always context. In Daniel 4:11 Nebuchadnezzar is relating "a vision" he saw "while lying in bed." (v.10). In a vision anything can happen; e.g. Jesus can appear as a 7-horned 7-eyed lamb (Rev. 5:6), something that was plainly not a literal reality. Likewise Matt. 4:8, even if the earth were flat it would not be possible to physically see "all the kingdoms of the world" -- they'd be too far, thousands of miles, for the human eye to make out. So it must have also been a vision, not a literal seeing.
    – JDM-GBG
    Aug 13, 2018 at 12:39

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The answer would be No.

As an example, John MacArthur of "Grace To You" ministries is a YEC:

https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B100702/indications-of-a-young-earth

But what if you start with a different set of assumptions? What if you go to the evidence assuming the biblical record is true, namely, that the earth is relatively young and there was a cataclysmic event known as the Flood?

That’s what John MacArthur assumes, and as he listens to scientists with similar assumptions, he finds that there are many indications of a young earth.

But he acknowledges the fact that the Earth is not flat:

https://www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/90-326/biblical-inspiration-validated-by-science-part-1

Whoever made this earth understands that is spherical and not flat. He understands that it rotates on an axis, not that it is stationary with heaven rotating around it. Whoever it was that created this earth knows that it is suspended in space on nothing.

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  • Thank you for your answer JDM. The quote : "Whoever made this earth understands that is spherical and not flat". So, what verse in OT which can be concluded that the earth is spherical not flat - which later on validated by science ? Is there a flat-earth believer who believe that the earth is young ?
    – karma
    Aug 11, 2018 at 20:17
  • @karma, check the answers from this question: christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/2033/…
    – JDM-GBG
    Aug 11, 2018 at 20:30
  • JDM, I just found out in the internet about Augustine's view : ""But as to the fable that there are Antipodes, that is to say, men on the opposite side of the earth, where the sun rises when it sets to us, men who walk with their feet opposite ours, that is on no ground credible." (newadvent.org/fathers/120116.htm)
    – karma
    Aug 11, 2018 at 21:09
  • @karma, Augustine wasn't questioning the shape of the earth, only the idea that "the far side" was inhabited. Later in the writing you quote from, he goes on: "...although it be supposed or scientifically demonstrated that the world is of a round and spherical form, yet it does not follow that the other side of the earth is bare of water; nor even, though it be bare, does it immediately follow that it is peopled."
    – JDM-GBG
    Aug 13, 2018 at 12:27
  • JDM, I think "it does not follow that the other side of the earth is bare of water; nor even, though it be bare, does it immediately follow that it is peopled" is Augustine's argument. So, because "it does not follow bla3x" then "there are Antipodes" is a fable.
    – karma
    Aug 23, 2018 at 3:49
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I am a believer in "young-earth creation" and a flat, "domed" earth as per a as-literal-as-possible reading of the Bible (I prefer KJV for English).

From becoming a "flat-earther" in the past few years, it is definitely clear that young-earth-creationism is not always 100% linked to flat-earth belief, be it Christians or non-Christians.

For Christians as you can see in this thread, even though you have pointed out how a strongly-literal reading of the Bible indicates not only a young but flat earth, there are many Christians that may believe in the young earth but still a globe earth.

FWIW, a secular comparison can be seen in geocentric and/or "electric universe" science researchers, etc. that hold to the globe earth belief but strongly question the Copernican and/or relativistic principle(s).

To sum up, there are many parallel Christian and secular investigations of young/old earth, aliens/demons, globe/flat earth, geocentric/heliocentric and electric/gravitational "universe". Throw in the spiritual realm and/or multidimensional universe and simulation theory... Well, suffice to say that's really why we need the guidance of Jesus and the Holy Spirit, Praise God.

For further reading see Rob Skiba's site and videos: http://testingtheglobe.com/

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    I can't see anything about creationism on Skiba's site.
    – curiousdannii
    Aug 12, 2018 at 15:25
  • @saltysub, If the literal reading leads to a literal assertion of a flat earth, you should at least supply the relevant quotations. As noted in my comment above to karma, the two verses quoted make no such assertion as they relate to visions, not literal seeings.
    – JDM-GBG
    Aug 13, 2018 at 12:42
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