We know from Apostle’s times that Jesus claimed that an attack or persecution to the Church member’s is a direct attack on Himself what more to a Vicar of Christ.

The Road to Damascus

"As Saul drew near to Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. 4He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him,“Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?” “Who are You, Lord?” Saul asked. “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” He replied.(Acts9:3-5)

And more importantly, St.Peter the 1st Vicar of Christ is shown in the Book of Acts as filled with the Holy Spirit guiding and empowering his thoughts,words & actions being the visible head of Christ founded Church..

Acts 5:3-10 New King James Version (NKJV)

But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”

Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things. And the young men arose and wrapped him up, carried him out, and buried him.

Now it was about three hours later when his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 And Peter answered her, “Tell me whether you sold the land for so much?”She said, “Yes, for so much.”

Then Peter said to her, “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out.” Then immediately she fell down at his feet and breathed her last. And the young men came in and found her dead, and carrying her out, buried her by her husband. (Acts5:3-10)

The “lies uttered to St.Peter concealed with evil intentions” is abominable to God, thru the presence of the Holy Spirit guiding and inspiring the actions of the Vicar of Christ.

The Vicar of Christ is the mouthpiece of God as Jesus said;

Luke 10:16 New King James Version (NKJV)

He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”(Luke10:16)

And for Ananias & Sapphira uttering lies to St.Peter the Vicar of Christ “face to face” suffered Godly wrath immediately thru physical death.

Ananias & Sapphira suffered death is a testament to the wording of the 4th Commandment.

"Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the Lord your God gives you.(Exodus20;12)

Ananias & Sapphira’s days were ended when they lied infront of the Holy Father,St.Peter the Vicar of Christ.

My question is in light of the continuing attacks & disrespect on the dignity of Pope Francis being the Vicar of Christ daily if not hourly receiving unkind, harsh, foul & blasphemous words in the light of experienced of St.Peter during Apostolic times and teaching.

Is there a recorded accounts in history on anyone attacking & disrespecting the dignity of any of the 266 Popes by “uttering lies with evil intentions” that suffered God’s visible wrath like the one of Ananias & Sapphira?

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I'm looking for all the well-known critics and church enemies who uttered blasphemous words and had written books or thru mainstream and social media had seriously attacked the dignity of all the Vatican II Popes namely St.John XXIII, St.Pope Paul VI, St.John Paul II the Great. Is there a visible punishment or curse that they suffered in relation to their words and deeds against the Vatican II Popes.

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    Don't neglect that lots of Catholics don't agree that Pope Francis is the legitimate heir of Peter's so-called appointment thereof. So, for them, the answer is who cares? – SLM Aug 8 at 0:20
  • @SLM Can we include in the list of hoax list those Catholics who do not recognized the Papacy of Pope Francis that was clearly refuted by Pope Benedict XVI himself thru several interviews & legitimate articles.Like when Jimmy Akin listed some of the known hoax about PF. Here's the link; "Don’t fall for this Pope Francis hoax: 5 things to know and share"ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/… – marian agustin Aug 8 at 1:53
  • Can you share the legitimate proof or official links that Pope Francis is not the legitimate Pope.Thanks – marian agustin Aug 8 at 2:02
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    The sin of Ananias & Sapphira were not that they had no respect of St. Peter. Their sin was that they were trying to cheat God. – Martin Rosenau Aug 8 at 6:24
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    Sedes are schismatics, their opinion is irrelevant to the question. Don't waste our time you're just glorified Orthodox. I find the question really interesting, and it would be a shame to see it go to waste. – Destynation Y Aug 9 at 0:50

Not really; no, God hasn't zapped anyone for questioning the Popes. It may be true, however, that the Catholic Church showed its wrath, like in the Crusades. But, let's start to answer the OP with the Bible.

But when Peter was come to Antioch, I [Paul] withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. ... I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Gal. 2:11, 21

Pretty serious that Peter was frustrating the grace of God, acting as a hypocrite (see 2:13). Did God zap Paul for this? No. Let's move on.

  1. And when the blessed Polycarp was at Rome in the time of Anicetus, and they disagreed a little about certain other things, they immediately made peace with one another, not caring to quarrel over this matter. For neither could Anicetus persuade Polycarp not to observe what he had always observed with John the disciple of our Lord, and the other apostles with whom he had associated; neither could Polycarp persuade Anicetus to observe it as he said that he ought to follow the customs of the presbyters that had preceded him. -Eusebius-

In this instance, we have Polycarp disagreeing with Pope Anicetus. Polycarp followed apostlic teaching. Anicetus followed presbyters sourced back to Sixtus. Later Polycarp was martyred, but it is doubtful it was God's wrath at work. This incident lead to this next incident about 40 years later with Pope Victor.

  1. But this [division by Victor] did not please all the bishops. And they besought him [Victor] to consider the things of peace, and of neighborly unity and love. Words of theirs are extant, sharply rebuking Victor. -Eusebius-ibid-

About 70 bishops sharply rebuked Victor who was leading the church further astray from the Word. Nope, God didn't pour out His wrath on them, including Victor.

About 60 years later, Firmillian and Cyprian rebuke Pope Stephen. Again no wrath of God. After all even the Catholic Church has subsequently agreed with Firmillian centuries later.

And yet on this account there is no departure at all from the peace and unity of the Catholic Church, such as Stephen has now dared to make; breaking the peace against you, which his predecessors have always kept with you in mutual love and honour, even herein defaming Peter and Paul the blessed apostles, as if the very men delivered this who in their epistles execrated heretics, and warned us to avoid them. Whence it appears that this tradition [of Pope Stephen] is of men which maintains heretics, and asserts that they have baptism, which belongs to the Church alone. -Firmillian-

Ouch. But the Catholic Church venerates Firmillian as a saint, even as he blasted the heresy of Pope Stephen.

The list of course of corrections could go on and on. Suffice to say that the answer to the OP is a clear historical nope.

With that in mind, we may examine what happened to Ananias and Saphira. Peter himself tells us exactly that the problem was not lying to Peter, who is full of humility, but to God.

thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. Acts 5:4d

PS. Let me address the reverse of these examples.

The idea of arianism is that there was a time when Christ did not exist. Christians, however, believe He is eternal.

The source of the false teaching is when persecution arose, people left the church. Later as persecution subsided, they wanted to reattend. But they had denied Christ. Solution? Invent the idea that Jesus became Christ at His baptism or at Mary's pregnancy, anything but that Jesus Christ is eternal. In this way, they could say they never denied God.

Now, those who taught this like Arius and Paul of Samosota were members of the church. They lied about the nature of Christ presumably to a Pope. Did God zap them dead? No.

So again, when Ananias and Saphira lied to Peter, it was not to Peter per se, but what does Peter say? You lied to God.

  • @SLM First, your example of Paul rebuking Peter is not good as we know Paul does not do it with evil intentions but with concerned for man's salvation.Your other examples are merely disagreement, it would be understandable and would not fit in simply because there are no evil intentions or malice on their part. Ananias & Sapphira case was different as they intentionally hide the truth to Peter, it's like having a confession on the Face of God on earth and then you have the courage to lie "face to face"; this for me is the gravity of the offense. I'm still looking for a satisfactory answer. – marian agustin Aug 9 at 8:25
  • @marianagustin I expanded the answer to include the PS. The point is that there were many who opposed the teachings from Rome. If Polycarp, Firmillian, and others had "no evil intent", Rome would have gone along with them, but she didn't. Rome persisted on her course to follow presbyters, to allow baptism by demons as on par with Christian baptism. From Rome's POV, Polycarp, Firmillian, and others were the liars, hiding the truth to be really found in Rome. They went "face to face" with Rome's Pope. God didn't zap them. – SLM Aug 9 at 17:58

God does not typically intervene against the suffering of his people on earth. We should not expect such treatment. Lets look at the scriptures.

The Lord Jesus Christ himself was murdered (tho he submitted willingly) on the Cross. Those who tormented him were not struck by the wrath of God. He teaches us, John 15:20-21

20 Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. 21 But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me.

So if he did not avenge the death of his own son (at the present time) why would he do it for those "servants" or less than his son.

He also calls christians to follow his example, and suffer unto death if necessary Luke 9:23

23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross [a]daily, and follow Me.

Matthew 10:22

And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.

Romans 8:36

36 As it is written: “For Your sake we are killed all day long; We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”

If we are serving God honestly, according to his Word. We can expect to receive opposition from the world. The world neither loves God, nor honors his servants. Look the the example of the Apostles. Martyred and exiled. And the saints of old mentioned in Hebrews. Hebrews 11:35b-38

Others were tortured, not accepting deliverance, that they might obtain a better resurrection. 36 Still others had trial of mockings and scourgings, yes, and of chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, [k]were tempted, were slain with the sword. They wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, tormented— 38 of whom the world was not worthy. They wandered in deserts and mountains, in dens and caves of the earth.

Lets look to Revelations 6 and find out about the judgement of God against those who persecute his church. Revelation 6:9-11

n He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

The spirits of those martyred for the Word of God cry out in heaven even now for vengeance. But God is waiting until the day of wrath to pay back. The idea that the church should be honored on earth, or without suffering, are certainly common. But I would challenge you that you might want to re-consider these basic pre-suppositions about Christians on earth.

  • L1R persecutions & passions of Jesus is offered for our redemption, also for all believers they are to follow Jesus by being meek & humble, and drink the cup too.But, Ananias & Sapphhira case, there's a deep message there, they are not persecuting Peter.Remember, Peter is the Face of Jesus here on earth and for a member of a Christ flock to lied with intent to cheat "face to face" meaning this act God hates so much, that He's wrath immediately strikes.Why?...persecution is a different thing. – marian agustin Aug 9 at 20:42
  • You say "Peter is the face of Jesus here on earth". Why would you say that? – L1R Aug 9 at 20:46
  • L1R we are all another Face of Christ, as St.Paul said it is no longer I who lives but Jesus.but to to Peter who directly receives Jesus Anointing to be his Vicar and directly empowers by the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. He's mission as Chief Shepherd is for all followers to see the Face of Christ in His leadership. – marian agustin Aug 9 at 21:23

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