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Jesus is Ascended into Heaven with a "resurrected body".

Mary was Assumed into Heaven with a "glorified body?

Revelation 21:27

"Nothing defiled shall enter the Kingdom..."

I put a question mark on Mary's glorified body. Why? St.Pope Pius XII in the Assumption Dogma leave this part unsettled for all the faithful to ponder.

Mary no doubt the Catholic Church Doctrine teaches was bestowed with a unique and singular gift of Immaculate Body but still not a "glorified or spiritual body". Immaculate body cannot enter Heaven only spiritual or glorified bodies in reference to CCC999 & CCC1000 plus St. Paul teaching on 1Corinthian50-51.

Mary at the end of her earthly life either suffers "dormition" or experienced actual physical death prior to Assumption into Heaven.

But, the state of Mary's physical body is left unsettled by St.Pope Pius XII.Does Mary's "dormition" means She had already possessed a "glorified body" or after experiencing physical death Mary was given a "glorified body"?

Jesus clearly suffered physical death, the proof is when His side was pierced "Blood & Water" gushed forth signifying there's no more blood left.And after three days rose again with a "resurrected body".

My question is in reference to St.Paul teaching in 1Corinthian 15:50-51

Where O Death is Your Victory?

*"Now I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed." - 1 Corinthians 15:51

If St.Paul teaches that flesh & blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, Mary's state of physical body although Immaculate is still a real "flesh & blood".How can She enter/assume into Heaven in that physical state?

In view of the above, my question is Jesus "resurrected body" differs from Mary's "glorified body"?

Also for clarity of the matter when was the "glorified body" of Mary given?, is it in Heaven or while here on earth.If we follow "dormition" teaching there's a possibility Mary already possessed a "glorified body" because death has no sting in Her Immaculate Body. But if we follow the teaching that Mary experienced physical death then a "glorified body" was given to Her after death, but also still on earth and not yet in Heaven by virtue of St.Paul teaching "on flesh & blood cannot inherit the Kingdom".

I'm looking only answers from Catholicism and Church Father and Saints reflections and commentaries.

  • Ultimately the question is whether Mary's body was united with her soul in heaven or not? – Ken Graham Jul 22 '18 at 15:39
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Mary and Jesus share one flesh (cf. Gal 4:4; Rom 1:3; Acts 2:30; Lk 1:42), the new Adam and Eve (Gn 2:23). Flesh which did not inherit the sinful fleshly inclinations of Adam: concupiscence. They were tempted only by the devil and by the world, but not by the flesh's weakness for sin—the gift of sanctifying grace from birth, in which God originally constituted Adam and Eve, hence perhaps the angel addressing Mary not by her name Mary, but, as the New Eve: as κεχαριτωμένη—she who was graced by God. Yet neither had a glorified body until their resurrection (traditions of Mary's assumption say that she indeed died, albeit peacefully; and, having a body without sin, without decay, until being assumed bodily: cf. Acts 2:27).

They both had sinless, immaculate flesh, being one and the same flesh.

He had real flesh, and looked like us in all things: the difference was it was not sinful flesh, tainted and corrupted by Adam's sin, and made prone to the gratification of animalistic lusts and desires (concupiscence).

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Just as Jesus rose with a glorified body, so did Mary rise with a glorified body. Before such, He could suffer, and He could hunger, He could not trespass the regions of physical obstructions, such as doors, etc. Afterwards, He was found to have walked through a locked door in the upper room (Jn 20:19). The same goes for Mary.

"Flesh and blood" is a term meaningful only in contrast to the spiritual. It is in this sense that St. Paul says "flesh and blood" (human effort alone) cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. Moreover, he parallels "flesh and blood" with "the perishable" meaning he doesn't mean glorified bodies here, since they are definitionally imperishable (1 Cor 15:53). Especially since we know Jesus still has flesh and blood: see Luke 24:39, and of course, in the Eucharist (1 Cor 11:23 et seq.).

Having sinless flesh doesn't mean you can't suffer death, since death being merely the separation of body and soul is not destructive (Acts 13:35-37), nor a punishment for those without sin (cf. 2 Cor 5:8). Death as a punishment looks like a rotting body and an eternity in Hell.

It's arguable that Jesus had to will to leave His body (which is the meaning of 'death'), as being without sin, He had dominion over His body, which unlike us fallen men and women, was subservient utterly to His spirit (Lk 23:46; cf. Jn 10:18). It's possible that the same happened with Mary.

They both recieved their glorified body after resurrection, as indeed the perishable cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.

Philippians 3:21 (NASB) For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.

  • Great.your answer said "Just as Jesus rose with a glorified body, so did Mary rise with a glorified body."So you mean, Mary had already possessed a "glorified or spiritual body" while still on earth? If already possessed a "glorified or spiritual body" it would mean BVM can also pass doors, cannot be subject to physical limitations and can transcends space & time.Am I reading your answer correctly? – jong ricafort Jul 22 '18 at 16:13
  • Almost; she can now; Jesus can now: the saints await such a reunion with their body. But neither had glorified bodies until they arose from 'sleep,' as it were. Neither had that until that point. – Sola Gratia Jul 22 '18 at 16:18
  • I will post my answer as the Key to the Mystery is Jesus hard teaching on the Holy Eucharist. Jesus doesn't care if all the believers left Him, this is the most important teaching and it is the Key to transforming our mortal flesh & blood into a "resurrected & spiritual body" which as mystery unfolds Mary's Immaculate Body while on earth received the Holy Eucharist and experienced the "glorified & resurrected body". As part of the mystery,that's why Mary has to hide away and lived in Ephesus so that people may not worship Her "glorified state" and focus only on Jesus.Godbless – jong ricafort Jul 22 '18 at 16:26
  • As soon as Mary had a glorified body, she was assumed. No one sought to worship her. God bless. – Sola Gratia Jul 22 '18 at 16:40
  • 33AD is the Pentecost, 40AD is the "Pre-Assumption Apparition"; Mary appeared to St.James the Greater in a "ghost-like" form meaning "glorified body" like Jesus that can transcends physical limitations. Ven.Mary of Agreda reveals Mary instructed the Gospel writers not to write anything about Her only what is needed to glorify Jesus. From 40AD , Church history tells Mary's still live until over 70AD.So for 30 years Mary still lives, if She appeared to St.James the Greater in a "ghost-like" form, what would the people do if they saw Mary in that "glorified state"? – jong ricafort Jul 22 '18 at 19:10
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What is the difference between Jesus “resurrected body” and Mary's “glorified body”?

The short answer is: They are one in the same.

Ultimately the question is whether Mary's body was united with her soul in heaven or not? If Mary's body was united to her soul in heaven then her body would have been glorified at that moment. We simply do not know. The Church has of yet not decreed whether Mary even actually died or not. There remains a mystery here that will be reveled to us later.

A gloried body is given to a person after the soul and body have been separated and been reunited after one's resurrection (or assumption). The exact moment one receives their glorified body has not yet been determined, but is possibly at the moment the body and soul are united in heaven or just before entering heaven. The saints are in heaven awaiting their glorified bodies. Did this happened to Mary, we simply do not know.

The resurrected body is glorified

St. Thomas Aquinas examines this idea in the Summa Theologiae (part III, question 54). Christ’s body, though real, was “glorified” (i.e. in a glorified condition). St. Thomas cites St. Gregory saying that "Christ's body is shown to be of the same nature, but of different glory, after the Resurrection” (III, 54, article 2). What does that mean? It means that a glorified body is still a body, but it is not subject to corruption.

All creation is held in existence by God. Suffice it to say that a glorified body has living powers that an unglorified body does not have. Glorified bodies are incorruptible (incapable of decay) and impassible (incapable of suffering). They are stronger. In the hierarchy of creation, St. Thomas says, the “stronger is not passive to the weaker” (sup, 82, 1). We can, with St. Thomas, conclude that the elements retain their qualities but are perfected to a higher law. Glorified bodies, and all they contain, will be “perfectly subject to the rational soul, even as the soul will be perfectly subject to God” (sup, 82, 1). - What Was Christ’s Resurrected Body Made Of?

The resurrected body of both Christ and the Blessed are the very same material bodies they had before they died.

Christ's body fell by death; namely, inasmuch as the soul which was its formal perfection was separated from it. Hence, in order for it to be a true resurrection, it was necessary for the same body of Christ to be once more united with the same soul. And since the truth of the body's nature is from its form it follows that Christ's body after His Resurrection was a true body, and of the same nature as it was before. (Summa Theologiae III, 54, 1)

But Christ's body after the Resurrection was truly made up of elements, and had tangible qualities such as the nature of a human body requires, and therefore it could naturally be handled. (Summa Theologiae III, 54, 2 ad 2)

The resurrected body is not spiritual by being made out of, or turned into, a spiritual substance. It is spiritual by being completely subject to the spirit (soul) of its possessor.

But such is the disposition of a glorified body that it is spiritual, i.e. subject to the spirit, as the Apostle says (1 Cor. 15:44). Now in order for the body to be entirely subject to the spirit, it is necessary for the body's every action to be subject to the will of the spirit. Again, that an object be seen is due to the action of the visible object upon the sight, as the Philosopher shows (De Anima ii). Consequently, whoever has a glorified body has it in his power to be seen when he so wishes, and not to be seen when he does not wish it. (Summa Theologiae III, 54, 1 ad 2) - Thomistic Philosophy Page

Taylor Marshall has this to say on the subject:

Sacred Scripture and Catholic theology teaches that our glorified resurrected bodies will experience four properties as an outflow of the beatified soul enjoying the vision of God’s essence:

1) Impassibility – the glorified body will no longer suffer physical sickness or death, as Saint Paul teaches regarding the glorified body in 1 Corinthians 15:42, “It is sown in corruption, it shall rise in incorruption.”

2) Subtlety meaning that we will have a spiritualized nature in the sense of a spiritual body as did our Lord as we learn at 1 Corinthians 15:44: “It is sown a corruptible body, it shall rise a spiritual,” i.e. a spirit-like, “body.” We see that Christ’s glorified body was able to pass through closed doors.

3) Agility – the glorified body will obey the soul with the greatest ease and speed of movement as we read in 1 Corinthians 15:43: “It is sown in weakness, it shall rise in power,” that is, according to a gloss, “mobile and living.” Saint Thomas Aquinas says, “But mobility can only signify agility in movement. Therefore the glorified bodies will be agile.” We discern agility our Resurrected Lord’s ability to bilocate and travel great distances in an instant.

4) Clarity – the glorified body will be free from any deformity and will be filled with beauty and radiance as we read at Matthew 13:43: “The just shall shine as the sun in the kingdom of their Father,” and Wisdom 3:7: “The just shall shine, and shall run to and fro like sparks among the reeds.” Here clarity refers not being “clear” but to being “bright.”

St. Thomas Aquinas at Summa Contra Gentiles, IV, 86 summarized: “thus also will his body be raised to the characteristics of heavenly bodies — it will be lightsome (clarity), incapable of suffering (impassible), without difficulty and labor in movement (agility), and most perfectly perfected by its form (subtlety). For this reason, the Apostle speaks of the bodies of the risen as heavenly, referring not to their nature, but to their glory.”

It is worth noting that the Virgin Mary has already received her glorified and resurrected body. Hence, she has the four gifts of the resurrection. - Do You Know the Four Properties of a Glorified Resurrected Human Body?

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What is the difference between Jesus “resurrected body” and Mary's “glorified body”?

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Jesus resurrected body is not yet a glorified body as it has not yet ascended into Heaven. Proof of this is, Jesus resurrected body was mistaken as the body of a "gardener" only and in the account of two witness in the Road to Emmaus, Jesus resurrected body does not possess a "bright light" like the "transfiguration account" in the gospel. Also, this can be seen in Jesus words to Mary Magdalene after His resurrection;

An important issue is why Jesus prevents Mary from touching or holding him. In Latin this phrase is translated as noli me tangere.

John 20:17 is a verse in the Gospel of John in the New Testament. It contains Jesus' response to Mary Magdalene right after he confronts her just outside his tomb after his resurrection. According to the longer ending of Mark's Gospel (Mark 16:9) Mary Magdalene is the first person to whom Jesus shows himself alive after his resurrection.

In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads:

Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say to them, I ascend to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.

The English Standard Version translates the passage as:

Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_20:17

While in the case of the Blessed Virgin Mary the Church teaches She was assumed "body & soul" in Heaven. This is a Church Dogma of the Assumption. But the question is what can kind of "body & soul" was assumed?

This is where the East and the Latin Church Tradition matters.

Eastern Orthodox belief

Eastern Christians believe that Mary died a natural death, that her soul was received by Christ upon death, and that her body was resurrected on the third day after her death and that she was taken up into heaven bodily in anticipation of the general resurrection. Her tomb was found empty on the third day. "...Orthodox tradition is clear and unwavering in regard to the central point [of the Dormition]: the Holy Virgin underwent, as did her Son, a physical death, but her body – like His – was afterwards raised from the dead and she was taken up into heaven, in her body as well as in her soul. She has passed beyond death and judgement, and lives wholly in the Age to Come.(wikipedia)

So, Eastern Tradition believed that Mary's soul goes into Heaven first, and when it goes into Heaven it means Mary's soul will be glorify. And then, after the third day Her immaculate body was resurrected but ofcourse the "glorified soul" must be reunited to Mary's resurrected immaculate body as human is composite of "body & soul".

The Latin Church however declares in the Dogma of the Assumption the following words;

In Munificentissimus Deus Pope Pius XII defined the dogma of the Immaculate Conception:

By the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority, we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.

The Latin Church or the Roman Catholic Church wording also stated only "body & soul". But what kind of body & soul was assumed?

Blessed Catherine Emmerich vision reveals that what is assumed is a "glorified body possessing a glorified soul";

The Dormition accounts by Blessed Emmerich is described as follows;

"Peter approached her and gave her extreme unction, much in the way in which it is administered now. From the boxes which John held he anointed her with holy oil on her face, hands, and feet, and on her side, where there was an opening in her dress so that she was in no way uncovered. While this was being done the Apostles were reciting prayers as if in choir.

"Peter then gave her Holy Communion. She raised herself to receive it, without supporting herself, and then sank back again. The Apostles prayed for a while, and then, raising herself rather less, she received the Chalice from John. As she received the Blessed Sacrament I saw a radiance pass into Mary, who sank back as though in ecstasy, and spoke no more.

"Afterwards I saw the Apostles and disciples once more standing round the Blessed Virgin’s bed and praying. Mary’s face was radiant with smiles as in her youth. Her eyes were raised towards heaven in holy joy.

"Then I saw a wonderfully moving vision. The ceiling of Our Lady’s room disappeared, the lamp hung in the open air, and I saw through the sky into the heavenly Jerusalem. Two radiant clouds of light sank down, out of which appeared the faces of many angels. Between these clouds a path of light poured down upon Mary, and I saw a shining mountain leading up from her into the heavenly Jerusalem. She stretched out her arms towards it in infinite longing, and I saw her body, all wrapped up, rise so high above her couch that one could see right under it. I saw her soul leave her body like a little figure of infinitely pure light, soaring with outstretched arms up the shining mountain to heaven.

"The two angel-choirs in the clouds met beneath her soul and separated it from her holy body, which in the moment of separation sank back on the couch with arms crossed on the breast.

"Seeing her thus entered into the glory of heaven, I forgot the whole scene round her body on the earth.

"When I once more looked down to earth, I saw the Blessed Virgin’s body lying on the couch. It was shining, her face was radiant, her eyes were closed and her arms crossed on her breast. The Apostles, disciples, and women knelt round it praying.

The Blessed Virgin died after the ninth hour, at the same time as Our Lord."

[Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, The Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary, ebook p. 223-224.]

So, Blessed Emmerich vision affirmed Eastern Tradition that Mary's soul separated from Her immaculate body. But what is important thing to consider is Blessed Emmerich described Mary's Immaculate body as a "transfigured body" meaning it had possessed a foretaste of Christ "transfigured body".

NOTE: Transfigured body of Christ was clearly different from His resurrected body. Peter, James and John saw a bright light when Jesus grant them the privilege to have a vision of His promised to all who will eat His "body & blood".

1000 This "how" exceeds our imagination and understanding; it is accessible only to faith. Yet our participation in the Eucharist already gives us a foretaste of Christ's transfiguration of our bodies:

Just as bread that comes from the earth, after God's blessing has been invoked upon it, is no longer ordinary bread, but Eucharist, formed of two things, the one earthly and the other heavenly: so too our bodies, which partake of the Eucharist, are no longer corruptible, but possess the hope of resurrection.

As Blessed Emmerich described the appearance of Mary's body when Her soul separated;

"When I once more looked down to earth, I saw the Blessed Virgin’s body lying on the couch. It was shining, her face was radiant, her eyes were closed and her arms crossed on her breast. The Apostles, disciples, and women knelt round it praying.

Soon afterwards I saw her soul, united to her transfigured body, rising out of the tomb far brighter and clearer, and ascending into the heavenly Jerusalem with Our Lord and with the whole glory.

[Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich, The Life of the Blessed Virgin Mary, ebook p. 223-224.]

Based on above description of Blessed Emmerich, Mary's Immaculate body was transfigured as CCC1000 teaches to all souls who live a Eucharistic Life and when the "glorified soul" of Mary reunites to Her "transfigured body" it becomes a "glorified body" as it was changed to a far "brighter & clearer".

In closing, Jesus resurrected body was not yet glorified when it was seen by Mary Magdalene and also by the Apostles. Mary Magdalene was prevented by Jesus for touching His resurrected body because only a Priest can touch the Eucharistic Body of Christ as evident Jesus allowed Thomas to touch His wounded body for all the Apostles who will become priest of the Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist. While Mary as Blessed Emmerich reveals was assumed in Heaven with a "glorified body & soul".

  • Would you please be so kind as to add links to your quotes. – Ken Graham Jul 22 '18 at 22:54
  • @KenGraham the quote that i put in here are bible verses and CCC would I need to put on the link to that, i think its verifiable. Also, one liner quote is from St. Montfort. I have to weave into that together with the known Church accepted teaching on Mary. What particular quote do you think i need to put a link? Thanks – jong ricafort Jul 22 '18 at 23:01

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