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Genesis 1:21-22

So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good

God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth."

Genesis 1:24

And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.

For example :
A. God create a bunch of elephants, cows, doves, eagles, penguins, dolphins, dogs, ants, snakes, etc etc ... here and there across the earth - male and female.

B. God create 2 elephants, 2 cows, 2 doves, 2 eagles, 2 penguins, 2 dolphins, 2 ants, 2 snakes, etc etc ... male and female for each type and they are all in one place ---> Something like when on the 6th day we go to a zoo or to an African Safari, many types of animal are there - but there are only two for each type, male and female.

C. Almost like B, but the two elephants on the most North of the earth, the two doves somewhere on other part of the earth, the two penguins on the most South of the earth, the two snakes exactly in the Eden Garden, etc etc. In other words, the size of the "African Safari" is as big as the earth size :).

So, according to the YEC - is it A or B or C ?

Thank you.

  • This is an interesting question which could have a more interesting follow-up. – bradimus Oct 5 '17 at 4:23
  • Could you clarify C? – Sola Gratia Oct 5 '17 at 12:55
  • @Sola I think in (b) All the pairs are created in the Garden and have to migrate to their habitats. In (c) the pairs are created in their natural habitats. Only a small portion of created pairs are in the Garden. – bradimus Oct 5 '17 at 13:51
  • I'm curious. What use will you put this information to? I'm sure it will help with slanting the answer, if any. – Steve Oct 5 '17 at 15:48
  • Yes bradimus, in (b) the pair of each type are in a smaller area (more concentrate because the area is smaller), while in (c) the pair of each type are spread to any part of the world. For illustration of (b) : in a 1000 m2 land size there are 2 dogs, 2 elephants, 2 snakes, 2 dolphins, 2 ants, and so on until, say there are 5000 types of animal. One does not need much time to find those 5000 types of animal in a 1000m2 land size. (continue) – karma Oct 5 '17 at 16:29
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Genesis 1:21-22

So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.

In this verse it doesn't clarify how many he made.

Genesis 1:24

And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.

This verse doesn't say either. This calls for some in depth research...

Genesis 6:20

Of the birds after their kind, of animals after their kind, and of every creeping thing of the earth after its kind, two of every kind will come to you to keep them alive.

God only put two of each animal on the ark. This hints that God only needed two of each kind to be created. It's not specific on where they were created, but God said to fill the Earth. I would say B is correct because God would have created them for Adam and Eve to see. And if the theory of Pangea is correct, God would have only created them in one spot, since Pangea is one continent.

Sites visited: https://answersingenesis.org/kids/noahs-ark/how-did-noah-get-two-of-every-sea-animal-on-the-ark/

  • I like the logic based on the Noah's ark story. So if I'm a literalist, yes I think the answer is B. Also it can be seen that after the flood, then all those each pair of any kind of animals are in one spot. Thank you Joel for your answer. – karma Feb 1 '18 at 3:38
  • Off topic, if you are interested - I have some other questions which similar about Genesis and can be "inter-connected". Maybe you would like to answer that other questions. Thanks. – karma Feb 1 '18 at 3:46
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    Do you have any references of YECs actually making this argument? – curiousdannii Feb 1 '18 at 23:10
  • Myself. I'm a YEC – Joel Feb 1 '18 at 23:40
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Variant A.

Saint Ephrem the Syrian (306 – 373) writes in "Commentary on Genesis":

After Moses spoke about the lights that came to be in the firmament, he turned to write about the swarming things, the birds and the serpents that were created from the waters on the fifth day, saying, "And God said, 'Let the waters cause living things to swarm, and let the birds fly above the earth.' And God created the great serpents and every living creature with which the waters swarmed according to their kind." (Gen 1:20, 1:21)

When the waters were gathered, which had been ordered on the second day, the rivers were ordered and also springs, lakes, and ponds were revealed. At the word of God, these waters--dispersed throughout creation--brought forth swarming things and fish from within them: the serpents were created within the abysses and the birds soared in flocks out of the waves into the air.

... After Moses spoke about the creation of the swarming things and of the birds and the sea serpents on the fifth day, he turned to write about the creeping things and the animals and the beasts that were created on the sixth day, saying, "And God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and reptiles and beasts.'" ( Gen 1:24) Although the entire earth was swarming with swarming things, nevertheless the cattle and the beasts were made on the border of Paradise so that they might dwell at the appointed place of Adam.

Then the entire earth stirred with creeping things as it had been commanded. The earth also brought forth the beasts of the field as companions to the wild beasts, and it brought forth as many beasts as would be useful for the service of that one who, on that very day, was to transgress the commandment of his Lord.

  • I believe the OP is asking in the context of the modern YEC movement. If that is case, this answer would benefit from the addition of sources indicating that the YEC accept Ephraim's teachings. – bradimus Oct 6 '17 at 20:28
  • Saint Ephrem the Syrian is one of the most famous and authoritative Fathers of the Church and interpreters of the Word of God like saint John Chrysostom, saint Basil the Great , saint Gregory the Theologian or saint Athanasius the Great. Word of God and Fathers of the Church, not only modern YEC movement, teach us the truth that God created the universe in six days (in sense Earth's rotation period). – DenisMath Oct 6 '17 at 21:25
  • @DenisMath, [Although the entire earth was swarming with swarming things, nevertheless the cattle and the beasts were made on the border of Paradise] ---> It seems St. Ephrem was talking about Gen 2:19 ? Please CMIIW (correct me if I'm wrong). Thank you. – karma Oct 7 '17 at 1:55
  • @bradimus, you are right that at least there is a source indicating the YEC today accept Ephrem's teaching about this. Because this question, depends on the answer - it may make another question based on the answer. So if Ephrem's answer/teaching is option(A) but the today's YEC teaching is not option(A) then it will be difficult for me to make another question. Thank you. – karma Oct 7 '17 at 2:03
  • @karma The quotation from Genesis 1:24 before the selected text of St. Ephraim shows what he interprets: "And God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and reptiles and beasts.'" (Gen 1:24) Although the entire earth was swarming with swarming things, nevertheless the cattle and the beasts were made on the border of Paradise..." – DenisMath Oct 7 '17 at 10:28

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