Starting with the early church, a large portion of Christian tradition has held the Augustinian hypothesis which believes that Matthew's Gospel was the first to be written, then Mark's, then Luke's, and subsequently John's, with each writer having some knowledge of the others' writing.

Since the 19th century however, many biblical scholars have rejected Augustinian hypothesis (namely that Matthews Gospel was the first to be written) in favor of Markan priority. On top of this, they assert that Matthew and Luke's Gospels have used Mark's as a source from which both draw virtually identical narrations (see The Synoptic Gospels). Under this hypothesis, those portions of Matthew and Luke that are in agreement but do not appear in Mark are believed to have been borrowed from an alternate source commonly referred to as "Q"

"Q" as a tangible fragment or codex has never been discovered within the field of archaeology and paleography however. Many biblical scholars defend "Q's" lack of tangible existence due to many portions of scripture being lost or edited.

However, one group certainly must have recorded an alleged Gospel as important as "Q" would have been, and that group is the Early Church Fathers.

So, do any Early Church Fathers record of another Gospel similar in content to those portions of Matthew and Luke that do not appear in Mark?

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    'However, one group certainly must have recorded an alleged Gospel as important as "Q" would have been, and that group is the Early Church Fathers.' The assertion that they 'certainly must' is rather strong. It is not difficult to imagine that something like Q would have fallen out of use once the Synoptics were (mostly) completed, say before the end of the First Century. The ECFs (or as least the records we have) don't seem to spend too much time discussing the texts until Marion in the mid Second Century. Even then, evidence is sketchy. Q could have been neglected or forgotten by then.
    – bradimus
    Sep 18, 2017 at 19:00
  • Consider this hypothetical: Q was written by Andrew the First-Called. Matthew (assuming the Apostle wrote the Gospel bearing his name) uses this record along with his own recollections and maybe Mark to write his Gospel. Would Irenaeus know about this? Would he care? Probably not. Irenaeus accepted Matthew's Gospel on Matthew's authority.
    – bradimus
    Sep 18, 2017 at 19:09
  • @bradimus I understand where you're coming from. I suppose "Q" could be grouped in with the "accounts" at the beginning of Luke's Gospel. The question then to consider would be what those "accounts" at the beginning of Luke could have been and if they were ever really documented. Sep 18, 2017 at 19:34
  • So why can it not be just as plausible that "those portions of Matthew and Luke that are in agreement but do not appear in Mark" come from Matthew's vs Luke's personal recollections? Why would they have to come from some earlier manuscript?
    – user19845
    Sep 18, 2017 at 21:28
  • @coderworks indeed, that is plausible. I am looking at the question from the persepctive of the Two-source Hypothesis however; one source "Mark", the other "Q." Sep 18, 2017 at 21:51

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As has been discussed in the comments of the OP, the likelihood that sources or "accounts" (Luke 1:1) which the Gospel writers may have used as references, being documented, is scanty at best. That being said, there exists at least some evidence from one church Father that has been used to promulgate the potential of what could be "Q."

The church father in question is none other than Papias of Hierapolis (roughly 60-130 CE). Although some sources claim Papias' writings survived through the middle ages, they certainly have not made it into the 20th and 21st centuries.1 Thankfully, we have some portions of Papias' writings seemingly quoted verbatim by Eusebius of Caesarea in his "Ecclesiastical History".

Eusebius quoting Papias' writings pertaining to the origins of the Gospel of Matthew:

"Therefore Matthew put the logia in an ordered arrangement in the Hebrew language, but each person interpreted them as best he could." - Eusebius of Caesarea, "Ecclesiastical History" 3.39.14-17

The translation of the word "logia" in the english ("λόγια" in the Greek), is the main point of contention. In non-Christian contexts, the word was traditionally interpreted as "oracles", however 19th century biblical scholarship argued "logia" was better interpreted "sayings." 2 This interpretation has given credence to the notion that Papias is really referring to a "sayings" gospel like that of the the Gospel of Thomas or "Q" that Matthew incorporated into his Gospel.

Although not the strongest of arguments, this case does at least give potential to an ECF's acknowledgement of a source used by Matthew that would've contained content similar to what "Q" is theorized to contain.


  1. Harnack, Adolf (1893). Geschichte der Altchristlichen Litteratur bis Eusebius. 1. p. 69
  2. Lührmann, Dieter (1995). "Q: Sayings of Jesus or Logia?". In Piper, Ronald Allen. The Gospel Behind the Gospels: Current Studies on Q. pp. 97–116.

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