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How can I go about proposing a change in a prayer? Or how can I have the change approved by the Catholic Church or their theologians?

I'd like to change the prayer of Hail Mary from:

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

to

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the time of temptation.

The current prayer doesn't cover the time between when we pray(now) and the hour of our death. I think the prayer will be much more effective if we say at the time of temptation instead of at the hour of our death.

I think "at the time of temptation" cover the hour of our death too. I don't think God is an ogre who waits for the hour of death to test us. I don't see much of a significance in the hour of death. If you live your whole life faithfully you should have enough grace for the hour of death. I just don't think that God will judge us based on our decision we make at the moment of death. It is not supported anywhere in the Catholic Chuch teaching either so I don't even understand the reasoning behind putting "at the hour of our death" to Hail Mary in the first place.

I know it was added by someone in the past but it's not clear who added it and why.

  • Somewhat related: christianity.stackexchange.com/q/38763/12563 – Matt Gutting May 16 '17 at 21:14
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    Such a proposal would have to have a considerable following to even to be considered a valid (optional) from of the Hail Mary from the traditional form at the local level. I do not think Rome would be against such a usage as a local tradition. Praying the Hail Mary in the form you suggest, apart from not being traditional, does not seem inappropriate or pose any problems. It is simply not the form the Church uses. – Ken Graham May 17 '17 at 2:46
  • @KenGraham, oh ok. You can post it as the answer. – Grasper May 17 '17 at 12:37
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    Old joke: What's the difference between a terrorist and a liturgist? You can negotiate with a terrorist (rimshot). Best wishes on your proposal. @KenGraham I agree with Grasper that you've got the core of an answer there. – KorvinStarmast May 17 '17 at 12:55
  • God is no ogre. But demons are, if anyone is. – Sola Gratia Jul 15 '17 at 19:13
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Such a proposal would have to have a considerable following to even to be considered a valid (optional) from of the Hail Mary from the traditional form at the local level. I do not think Rome would be against such a usage as a local tradition. Praying the Hail Mary in the form you suggest, apart from not being traditional, does not seem inappropriate or pose any problems. It is simply not the form the Church uses.

For example the French Hail Mary contains a few items of interest for us here.

First of all Hail Mary does not conclude with the word Amen, although some French do. While I was living in France, we all said Ainsi soit-il in lieu of Amen.

Second point which I truly love about the French Hail Mary is that they add the words poor sinners (pauvres pêcheurs) to their Ave Maria.

For those who wanted prayers: here's the "Hail Mary.

Je vous salue, Marie, pleine de grâce. Le Seigneur est avec vous. Vous êtes bénie entre toutes les femmes, et Jésus, le fruit de vos entrailles, est béni. Sainte Marie, mère de Dieu, priez pour nous pauvres pêcheurs, maintenant et à l'heure de notre mort. Ainsi soit-il. - Hail Mary Prayer

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If you will take translation into account, “now and at the time of temptation.” will not check out because the Latin original is “nunc et in hora mortis nostræ.”

(A little conjecture from my brief answer above;: according to Manila exorcist Rev. Fr. Jocis Syquia, the hour of one’s death is in fact a boss battle between good and evil for your soul. You will be thus sorely tempted at the hour of your death. Mary’s intercession becomes important in this regard. Considering that the time of our deaths is rarely, if ever known to us, such prayer is necessary.)

There should be no problems with you pushing through with your preferred translation for your private devotion. However, you will have a problem implementing your changes in liturgical prayer, such as in the Divine Office and Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary, where the Hail Mary is part of the Incipit of Matins. You will also have a problem in the Dominican Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary, since the Hail Mary is recited on every Canonical Hour.

As per the Liturgiam Authenticam:

When it may be deemed appropriate by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, a text will be prepared after consultation with Bishops, called a “ratio translationis”, to be set forth by the authority of the same Dicastery, in which the principles of translation found in this Instruction will be applied in closer detail to a given language. This document may be composed of various elements as the situation may require, such as, for example, a list of vernacular words to be equated with their Latin counterparts, the setting forth of principles applicable specifically to a given language, and so forth. 

Temptation would not clearly be a good translation for mortis as the latter Latin word cearly means death.

the original text, insofar as possible, must be translated integrally and in the most exact manner, without omissions or additions in terms of their content, and without paraphrases or glosses.

Overall: not a good idea.

  • It's been a while since I posted this question and I got a revelation that if I pray everyday(rosary) saying "now" covers the time between now and the death. And I think that's the point of the rosary. Learn to pray it everyday all 3 parts. – Grasper Mar 26 at 19:31

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