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In Mark 8 and Matthew 16 after the feeding of the four thousand Peter declares Jesus as the messiah. Immediately after this Jesus tells his disciples not to reveal his identity.

How does this reconcile with how in John 6:40 Jesus reveals himself to Jews in the feeding of the five thousand which occurs before the feeding of the four thousand?

Even more problematic is how Jesus tells the Jewish authorities in Jerusalem that they search the scriptures for eternal life, when in actuality they speak of Jesus. This event occurs even before the feeding of the five thousand in John 5:39.

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  • Welcome! Could you clarify what you are asking? Your question title seems to indicate you wonder about the "messianic secret," which is thoroughly addressed elsewhere: What explanations have been offered for the “messianic secret” passages?. The body of your question makes it sound like you are wondering about the order of events recorded in the Gospels. Could you clarify? I hope you'll take a minute to take the tour and learn how this site is different from others. – Nathaniel is protesting Jun 26 '16 at 11:49
  • This could be a good question on BH.SE. – Dick Harfield Jun 26 '16 at 21:42
  • The question seems OK to me and also there is no conflict. Also it is not that opinion based to me but others obviously disagree. The answer is simple: Jesus did not directly identity himself to be the Messiah until very late in his ministry allowing others to correctly or incorrectly draw their own conclusions. Obviously he also spoke in parables to keep his enemies in the dark. He also did not want thise who 'figured it out' to allow rumors to become known by his enemies. Why he spoke in parables is a related question answered on this site already. Both to keep people in the dark. – Mike Jun 27 '16 at 9:40
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The problem of Jesus telling others not to reveal his identity is known as the 'Messianic Secret' and is a motif primarily found in the Gospel of Mark. According to William Wrede (Das Messiasgeheimnis in den Evangelien, 1902) the messianic secret is a prohibition to make known the messianic character of Jesus.

The following essay: 'Mark Essay 3: Is there a Messianic Secret in Mark?' says that Wrede rules out from history any theory such as a progression in the revealing of Jesus' personality, on the correct grounds that the time-framework of the gospels is imposed on the material by the evangelist, and must therefore be attributed to his theology rather than to historical reality.

The essay author concludes that the secret is a function of Mark's irony. If Mark is to maintain the dual level of discourse which is the basis of all irony, he cannot allow the actors in the drama to come too quickly to a realisation of Jesus' identity. Hence his insertion on various occasions of the secrecy commands (stylistically shown to be his own work) and of the parable-secret, which originally had a quite other import. Ian Wilson says, in Jesus: The Evidence, page 29, that while not necessarily giving this idea their full endorsement, most modern scholars accept that Wrede may well have been right in regarding Mark’s author as more concerned with putting over theology than with writing straight history. As the first narrative account of the mission of Jesus, Mark was often read to gentiles who had not yet become Christians, and the Secret added suspense and drama to the story, also perhaps explaining why this knowledge was not so widely circulated in the decades prior to authorship of the Gospel.

Matthew is a synoptic gospel and often follows Mark quite closely, including some references to the Messianic Secret, although fewer than in Mark itself. On the other hand, John's Gospel is further removed from Mark's Gospel and developed along different lines. In John, Jesus is not at all concerned with keeping his true identity secret. Scholars generally refer to the intended audience of John as the 'Johannine community', a group of Christians already familiar with the story of Christ. For them, the Messianic Secret would have made little sense, whereas they may have found Jesus' bold assertions of his identity, as in John 5:39, to be inspirational.

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