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"That which is necessary is legal" is a doctrine practiced by sane states, so I would like to believe.

What about "That which is necessary is moral" ?

If so, are there some notable exceptions of some denominations that disagree with such? I can't imagine any. I would imagine some denominations disagree with general ideas that certain actions are necessary but would agree if they were necessary, they would be moral.

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    Jul 22 '15 at 21:17
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    Offhand I'd guess you might get some "What is necessary is not immoral", but "moral" and "not immoral" are not synonyms. Jul 22 '15 at 21:46
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    I don't know enough at this point to post an answer, but this discussion on lying may be helpful: even the church fathers disagreed over whether it is ever moral to lie. This conflict is seen over Rahab's lie: Augustine allows absolutely no lie, under any circumstances... but you might read his explanation (see the citation on that answer) and note that he first establishes that the lie is unnecessary. Jul 23 '15 at 2:42
  • @fredsbend Will this be on-topic if I make this about a particular denomination eg Catholicism? Jul 31 '15 at 17:00
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    Jul 31 '15 at 21:39
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Firstly, it should be noted that the legal defence is not common and only rarely accepted. (Though possibly this is because prosecutors decide not to prosecute some cases where it would apply.)

The idea that what is done out of necessity is morally acceptable or at least neutral has some Biblical support. In Matthew 12 Jesus teaches that it is okay to do some acts on the Sabbath which the Pharisees did not allow, such as some light harvesting and healing, and gives the example of David eating the Tabernacle's consecrated bread, and the common sense acceptability of saving your sheep if it falls in a pit, even on the Sabbath. Now the Pharisees' conception of what the restrictions against working on the Sabbath were not what God intended, so God may never have considered such against to be against the Law. But this does not apply to David's Tabernacle meal, which was definitely against the Law, and yet justified through his need.

That said, Christians would say that our desire for self-preservation, which would lie behind any action we feel is necessary, has the potential to become idolatry. Christians are free to seek joy and pleasure in this life, but there will be times when we give that up for another purpose. So most Christians would say that it is not moral to pretend to abandon the faith under threat of persecution, even to save the lives of ourselves or others. Though martyrdom is not to be sought out, it is a honourable and moral choice to become one in those necessary situations.

A lower stakes example might be the choice of whether to bribe an official in a culture where that is commonplace and expected. Some Christians will say "yes, just bribe the immigration official so we can get our visas, everyone else does and it's not really wrong", while others will say that it remains sinful, so that even if it means the official denies their visa out of spite, they will not pay bribes. There are of course a lot of ethical grey areas which Christians do not agree about.

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  • "The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one" Jul 31 '15 at 16:57
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The big question is Who gets to decide what is Necessary. Unregenerate man in his fallen state would consider many things necessary that a born-again Christian would not:

An addict would consider drugs necessary.

A whoremonger would consider prostitutes or easy women necessary.

A molester would consider access to children necessary.

A thief would consider unprotected goods necessary.

The list could go on and on. The "sane" state that you imagine, where there is a blanket policy that everyone is allowed to do whatever he thinks is necessary, and moral just because he thinks it is necessary, would be total chaos. The way the question is asked, I can't imagine any church or denomination that would throw away their Bibles and abdicate their role as a moral guide to the community by promoting such a policy.

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    "That which is necessary is legal" is usually referring to things like stealing food when you're starving. That kind of necessity. Jul 22 '15 at 23:39
  • I may have been influenced by his second question made about the same time regarding legalizing prostitution and the church permitting pornography and stuff like that. Maybe I should have asked him to clarify what he is after or to give a few examples of the types of actions that he thinks are necessary, but others may consider immoral. Jul 23 '15 at 1:10
  • A good idea anyway. Jul 23 '15 at 2:41
  • Just because someone thinks something is necessary doesn't mean it is necessary, obviously. Hence, an action done because one dishonestly thinks it is necessary even though it isn't does not fit the parameters of the question. Am I wrong? Jul 31 '15 at 16:58
  • Lol Daniel. I don't consider prostitution or pornography necessary. I don't necessarily consider their legalization necessary either. Jul 31 '15 at 16:59
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The important thing to realize, as Daniel Giron has pointed out, is the essence of the question 'What makes a thing necessary?' A thing can be necessary for a certain end while not being morally fruitful, nor right, if such a thing were to be acted out.

Just to give one example, consider the idea that it is necessary to kill a dog if you desire it to be dead. As you can see, believing that the act of killing the dog is therefore morally acceptable is foolish. This is because it is the moral quality of the end that determines a thing's moral reality.

The question to truly be asked is rather 'What composites an end to be morally right?' The answer to such a question is always the same; if an end brings about a greater good it is always justified. But here is where the problem becomes somewhat more interesting; a person can believe that an end brings about a greater good when it truly doesn't. This is perhaps most seen in the past century. This century's mass genocides that have taken place in the name of the 'greater good' are rather obviously not taking place for any 'good' at all. Such events occur only to satisfy what morally corrupted man believes to be the greater good.

This misunderstanding of terms in reality can also be applied to what is meant by 'necessity' itself. Often times a moral end can appear to only be achieved by one necessary path when in reality there are other more positively moral roads that can be taken to achieve such an end. An absolutely morally necessary act, thus, is only necessary insofar as the end cannot be achieved without such an act. But a thing can nevertheless appear necessary to a certain individual, and so be necessary granted the considered conditions.

For example, consider a starving family. There is a possibility existent that in some capacity this starving family could be fed by charity, but this lies only as a potentiality until actualized. As such, it is the parents' obligation to seek themselves for food. The moral necessity of the parents preserving life is not absolute (since there is a potentiality that food could be given to them by another) but it is personal (since this potentiality has the potential to not be fulfilled without personal will). So the question than, with the Starving Family Moral Dilemma, is whether theft of food is morally necessary. The answer in short, given that the theft occurs in such a way that food is taken from those who have plenty themselves (aka not taken from those also starving), is yes, not absolutely but personally.

This is because the moral obscurity of whether life can be preserved without personal will verifies action of personal will, so long as such will does not take life itself (and even this understanding can have certain exceptions, an example being the defense of life against a person who's life is a threat to other life). To phrase it another way, the Divine Order wills that theft in this case be permissible since its end is of moral worth.

Hence St. Aquinas states the following:

For instance, a man may have another's goods, whether in money or in kind, either because he has stolen them, or because he has received them on loan or in deposit or in some other way. In this case a man ought to pay what he owes, rather than benefit his connections out of it, unless perchance the case be so urgent that it would be lawful for him to take another's property in order to relieve the one who is in need.

But even Aquinas has a difficult time answering the obscure questions that come when theft occurs upon those who are in need themselves. In other words, when one starving family encounters the food of another starving family. These sorts of questions require an entire background of moral theory that is best researched independently.

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