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What I understand is: Upon baptism and receiving the Holy Ghost, I'm sin-free, 100% forgiven, not perfect, but clean, clean like I could dwell in the presence of God if I died right after I was baptized. From then on, every time I take the sacrament I can be forgiven of my sins. Also, every day if I have repented and asked for forgiveness, God may clean me of my sins through blood Christ shed in payment for my sins during the Atonement.

Moses 6:59-60 That by reason of transgression cometh the fall, which fall bringeth death, and inasmuch as ye were born into the world by water, and blood, and the spirit, which I have made, and so became of dust a living soul, even so ye must be born again into the kingdom of heaven, of water, and of the Spirit, and be cleansed by blood, even the blood of mine Only Begotten; that ye might be sanctified from all sin, and enjoy the words of eternal life in this world, and eternal life in the world to come, even immortal glory;

For by the water ye keep the commandment; by the Spirit ye are justified, and by the blood ye are sanctified;

Yet, the process of repentance seems to be a constant thing, one we don't really start and end, especially because we can't be 100% sure that we will never sin again.

  • Forever and for all eternity, but you would have to live a completely sinless life after baptism to avoid the necessity of repentance after baptism. We all sin, probably daily at different degrees, either sins of remission or omission. You can't become perfect in one day, probably not even in a lifetime, but it's still the command we're given, "Be thou perfect." – ShemSeger Feb 13 '15 at 22:00
  • Hmm, we don't have to be as perfect as God to be clean from sins. Maybe the perfection you're talking about "probably not even in a lifetime" is not the command we're given. Also, you just made me think of an equivalent question. So how long can a person go without sinning? – Pie Till I Die Feb 14 '15 at 2:15
  • Christ gave the command to be perfect at the sermon on the mount (see Matt 5:48) We don't have to literally be perfect, but we have to try our hardest, every man will be judged according to his circumstance. How long a person can go without sinning depends entirely on the person. – ShemSeger Feb 14 '15 at 2:24
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    @ColeTrumbo There isn't a universal answer to "How long can a person go without sinning?". – Matt Feb 14 '15 at 2:33
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As you've said, being saved is a process more than an event. You can think of repentance as a continual process or something you do over and over again. The definition becomes blurry when you consider something you do over and over again as a process.

Sometimes we look at repentance within the scope of a particular sin, and once we stop doing that thing, it could be said we've repented of that thing. But how long that repentance lasts is up to us. You ask, "How long can I be forgiven of all my sins?" Well, the answer is ultimately the same as any other Christian would give: forever. But that does not come until heaven, and only if we've done our part (2 Nephi 31):

19 And now, my beloved brethren, after ye have gotten into this strait and narrow path, I would ask if all is done? Behold, I say unto you, Nay; for ye have not come thus far save it were by the word of Christ with unshaken faith in him, relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save.

20 Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.

Also from 2 Nephi 25:

23 For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

In Moroni chapter 10, Moroni explains that we can "become holy, without spot" if:

33 ... if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot.

That is the lifelong quest.

And how do we become "perfect in Christ" (i.e. fully repented)? The previous verse:

32 Yea, come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God.

This is what the lives of Latter-day Saints are all about.

You wrote:

It's kind of hard to believe I can really be 100% clean again because there's always more to repent of.

I don't think the record of our lives are tallied and supposed to sum to 0 at the judgment. In other words, I don't think there really is a "100% clean" compared to God.1 Constant repentance is necessary so that we can become who are we are supposed to become.

In summary, being forgiven is something we must always strive for, because while we live in this fallen world, we will be subject to temptation and also the "natural man" (our carnal desires/habits) that King Benjamin talked about. We will be forgiven as often as we repent, and we must repent until we are "fully ripe" (as the Lord told the Brother of Jared). And if we die or rise perfect in Christ as Moroni talked about, our forgiveness will be everlasting.


1. Consider what Einstein postulated with special relativity: even if you were going 99.9% the speed of light, and something moving at 100% the speed of light passed you in the next lane, it would appear to be going the speed of light as if you were not moving at all.

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    +1 That comparison to the speed of light - so good, and so fitting :-) – kutschkem Feb 14 '15 at 21:42
  • I've had two new thoughts about this. 1) True repentance means repenting of all my sins. I agree where you say "it could be said we've repented of that thing", but you and I probably don't believe that means we're really 100% clean of our sins, maybe not even of that one sin. 2) Is it really up to me? Yes, 2Neph 2:27. I believe that's where grace comes in (not the grace we need for ultimate salvation, but the grace we need during temptations and weaknesses). If it were up to me alone, I'd like to say I'd succeed every time, but in reality, I'd fail every time (2Nephi31:19). – Pie Till I Die Feb 15 '15 at 2:45
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    +1 Another good reference: D&C 82:7 - "I, the Lord, will not lay any sin to your charge; go your ways and sin no more; but unto that soul who sinneth shall the former sins return" Repentance is the process of becoming better, not checking the box. If we regress, the progress is lost. – Paul Draper Feb 20 '15 at 7:02

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