If salvation is by grace alone, no works necessary, then why did Jesus say to Nicodemus "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." (John 3:5). That sounds like baptism to me, and baptism sounds like "doing something" (aka "works").

  • easy answer is baptism is an expression of salvation not a means, otherwise the thief on the cross would not have been saved
    – Mike
    Jun 12, 2014 at 23:38
  • And I will add, all churches that subscribe to the Nicene creed give lip service to Acts 2:38 saying "we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins." Why do they do that, unless they know baptism is indeed required, despite their constant insistence that it isn't? Jun 13, 2014 at 5:14
  • How does baptism oppose grace? Whatever work is done inside baptism is done by God, while you just stand there and get dunked. Jun 14, 2014 at 3:56


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