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If salvation is by grace alone, no works necessary, then why did Jesus say to Nicodemus "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." (John 3:5). That sounds like baptism to me, and baptism sounds like "doing something" (aka "works").

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  • easy answer is baptism is an expression of salvation not a means, otherwise the thief on the cross would not have been saved – Mike Jun 12 '14 at 23:38
  • And I will add, all churches that subscribe to the Nicene creed give lip service to Acts 2:38 saying "we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins." Why do they do that, unless they know baptism is indeed required, despite their constant insistence that it isn't? – david brainerd Jun 13 '14 at 5:14
  • How does baptism oppose grace? Whatever work is done inside baptism is done by God, while you just stand there and get dunked. – david brainerd Jun 14 '14 at 3:56

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