In Revelation 12, John sees Satan cast out of the Father's presence and down to earth:

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Does this mean the Earth was created by the time Satan was cast out? Then were he and his angels present for the Creation? If not, to where was he cast out, maybe in the interim, until the earth was created?

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The angels were created before the earth. When God is speaking to Job we see that he refers to the angels or sons of God celebrating over the creation of the earth. Job 38:1-7:

Then Jehovah answered Job out of the windstorm: 2 “Who is this who is obscuring my counsel And speaking without knowledge? 3 Brace yourself, please, like a man; I will question you, and you inform me. 4 Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you think you understand. 5 Who set its measurements, in case you know, Or who stretched a measuring line across it? 6 Into what were its pedestals sunk, Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars joyfully cried out together, And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?

Satan was present with the other angels during the creation of the earth. It wasn't until God created man that Satan began to rebel against God. Genesis 3:3-5

But God has said about the fruit of the tree that is in the middle of the garden: ‘You must not eat from it, no, you must not touch it; otherwise you will die.’” 4 At this the serpent said to the woman: “You certainly will not die. 5 For God knows that in the very day you eat from it, your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and bad.”

Satan was then calling God a liar and inferred that God was keeping good things from man.

Isaiah 14:13-14

You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to the heavens. Above the stars of God I will lift up my throne, And I will sit down on the mountain of meeting, In the remotest parts of the north. 14 I will go up above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself resemble the Most High.

Satan wanted the glory of God's position. He also wanted humans to worship him as God.

At the time Revelation was written Satan had not yet been thrown down to earth. That was prophecy that would occur at a later date. Acts 2:32-35

God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses. Therefore, because he was exalted to the right hand of God and received the promised holy spirit from the Father, he has poured out what you see and hear. For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’

Satan and his angels would have been thrown down from heaven when Jesus became the ruler of the kingdom. We don't know what time that happened or will happen, although different denominations will have different answers for this.

We know that Satan had not yet been thrown out of heaven because he was able to talk to God in the book of Job. Job 1:6-7

Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah, and Satan also entered among them. 7 Then Jehovah said to Satan: “Where have you come from?” Satan answered Jehovah: “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.

We see that Satan did enter heaven to take his station before God. We know that can't have been on earth because Satan had just come from the earth. Satan cannot have been thrown out of heaven before this account then.

A plausible time-frame for that happening would have been some time after Jesus's resurrection.

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    Your quoting of Isaiah 14:13-14 is good, but the verses do not necessarily support your sentence, "Satan at that time did not rebel because man did not yet exist. When God created man Satan desired their worship for himself." Man (and woman) need not have been created before Satan fell. His fall could have occurred ten billion years before God's creation of man. Who really knows when God created the angels? Man need not have been created for Satan's heart to be filled with pride. Evidently he was one of the greatest angels (if not the greatest), and over weening pride filled his heart. Dec 9, 2013 at 16:24
  • sorry I wrote that when I was really tired. Couldn't sleep last night. I will come back and revise it later today
    – Jeremy
    Dec 9, 2013 at 18:16
  • Edited again....Idk I just can't seem to get my mind work in a clear direction today. Don't be surprised if I come back to edit again :)
    – Jeremy
    Dec 9, 2013 at 20:06
  • As the young people say today, "I feel you, man." Cheers! Don Dec 9, 2013 at 21:27
  • There is a possibility Satan was cast out of heaven (the third heaven, the abode of God) and demoted, as it were, to the first heaven (i.e., the atmosphere surrounding the earth), where he became the prince of the power of the air (Ephesians 2:2). Moreover, I would not be surprised if God, from time to time, calls all His angels before His presence to give an account of what they have been doing (Job 1:6,7). I'd rather think God runs His universe in "tight ship" fashion and doesn't simply let the devil do his thing without any accountability. This is pure speculation on my part, however. Dec 9, 2013 at 21:47

It depends on how you interpret this vision concerning the Woman and the Dragon.

Many people see this vision as describing the war in Heaven when Satan rebelled against God. But there are many reasons why this view cannot be accepted. Some of the reasons are that there is no mention of the rebellion of Satan here and the chronology of events explains something else.

Things become much clearer if we view this vision as the final battle between Satan and God. Here is one way of interpreting the vision, according to the chronology of events in the vision.

  1. The Woman represents the Church or Mother Mary
  2. The Dragon represents Satan
  3. The Woman/Mary gave birth to Jesus Christ
  4. Satan tries to destroy Jesus but Jesus was taken away to Heaven
  5. Satan made a final attempt to dethrone God and to rule Heaven
  6. Satan was defeated and was hurled down to earth. Satan lost his position in Heaven.
  7. Satan then started to pursue the Church but was snatched away by God (Rapture?)
  8. Satan then persecute the remaining believers (Tribulation?)

And the next chapter, Revelation 13 describes how Satan exercised his ultimate power through the Anti-Christ(the Beast) and the False Prophet.

If this vision is about the final battle of Satan against God, which will take place at the end times, it's no wonder why the earth is mentioned in this vision by John the Apostle.

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