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Were the Pharisees being sarcastic in John 7:52, when they claimed that "no prophet ever came out of Galilee"? It is written that Jonah came from Gath-hepher, in Galilee (2 Kings 14:25).

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    That's a good question. I didn't realize that Jonah was also from Galilee. Best guess it was just prejudice against Galileans. Kind of like how people use the bible to support racism. – crownjewel82 Sep 12 '13 at 14:27
  • Or was Jonah a false prophet? His prophecy, after all, was not fulfilled. – Bruce Alderman Sep 4 '15 at 19:33
  • @BruceAlderman Kindly read the following verses... the destruction is averted by fasting and penance. – Sola Gratia Feb 25 '19 at 13:36
  • @SolaGratia yes, but Jonah did not give the Ninevites that option. He preached unconditional destruction of the city. (Jonah 3:4 "And he cried out, 'Forty days more, and Nineveh shall be overthrown!'"). And when the Ninevites repented and God did not bring about the disaster, Jonah was angry and wanted to die (Jonah 4:1-3). Neither Jonah's actions before nor after the Ninevites' repentance look like the actions of a person speaking for God. – Bruce Alderman Feb 25 '19 at 18:59
  • God sent him with that message (and we don't know if it was just a summary, like Mark often summarizes events recorded in more detail in other Gospels). The author of the book of Jonah affirms that God did. And Jesus also affirms the book of Jonah, and thus that he was a true prophet of God. And if Jesus doesn't know what makes a true or false prophet, you sure as hell don't, with all respect. You seem to think prophets must be impeccable in order to be given true revelation or something. Isaiah said, "I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips" – Sola Gratia Feb 25 '19 at 19:25
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Many commentators have enjoyed pointing out the Pharisees' mistake, which is just one of several errors they make in this chapter.

A "pure" sarcasm would mean that the Pharisees considered Galilee to be the place where prophets came from - a bit like associating Washington, DC with politicians. But the context is their rejection of Jesus (known to them as a Galilean) as a prophet, which makes that reading a bit tricky. It is more likely that they are being rude or sarcastic, but at the same time, incorrect to dismiss Galilee as a prophet-free zone.

Thomas Aquinas in the Catena Aurea collated some earlier discussion on this passage. This includes John Chrysostom (Homily 52 on the Gospel of John) characterizing the tone of the Pharisees as "rude" and "insulting" (rudius, iniuriose), which would cover sarcasm; and on the other hand Alcuin of York's Commentary on the Gospel of John, where the emphasis is on their ignorance. If it is sarcasm, then it is still misaimed sarcasm, because the Pharisees are incorrect.

But their mistake is significant. The story of Jonah prefigures that of Jesus in several important ways, and so it is interesting that the two prophets are, in a sense, rejected together.

N. T. Wright says of this verse:

The Pharisees further show their ignorance of Scripture in that both the prophets Jonah and Hosea came from Galilee. And when John has them say that no prophet "rises up" or "arises" from Galilee, the word he uses is almost always used elsewhere in the book to refer to the resurrection. Jonah was proverbial for coming, so it seemed, "back from the dead" after three days in the belly of the fish; and Hosea contains the prophecy that God will "raise us up on the third day" (Hosea 6:2).1

The Greek verb in question is ἐγείρεται (ἐγείρω), which originally meant "to wake up" or "to arouse", and was later applied to rising from a sick-bed or death-bed, as well as from sleep. It can also mean rousing someone to activity from a previous state of torpor. The other instances in John's gospel are as follows:

  • Jesus's resurrection / metaphor of raising the Temple: 2:19, 2:20, 2:22, 21:14
  • Healing at the pool of Bethesda: 5:8
  • Raising the dead in general: 5:21; and Lazarus specifically: 12:1, 12:9, 12:17
  • Standing up / being called to action: 11:29, 13:4, 14:31

The "resurrection" sense is also strongly present elsewhere in the New Testament. So we could say that John's account has a certain level of irony, even if the Pharisees are not themselves being sarcastic.

Some versions of John 7:52 have the Pharisees talking about the prophet, rather than a prophet. They would then be arguing about whether the Messiah ought to be from Galilee, as opposed to whether prophets in general could come from there. If this is the reading then the Jonah question does not arise - but instead, we have to ask about the Pharisees' knowledge or interpretation of the Messianic prophecy in Isaiah 9 (or in the Hebrew, starting at 8:23). Here, "Galilee" is to be made glorious by a son who is to be called "Wonderful, Counsellor, the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace". The application to Jesus hinges on him being "from" Nazareth as well as Bethlehem, and of the line of David - facts which were not generally known (John 7:42). As before, the tone of the argument could very well be sarcastic, with the Pharisees being wrong, but this time for a different reason.

1. N. T. Wright. John: 26 studies for individuals and groups (InterVarsity Press, 2009). Chapter 10, Disputes about Jesus, p. 60.

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    I am a little surprised that no mention was made of John 1:46 (Nathanael said to him, “Can anything good come out of Nazareth?” Philip said to him, “Come and see.” [ESV]) – Paul A. Clayton Sep 13 '13 at 1:46
  • Perhaps noteworthy (though unsupported), this claims 5 prophets were from Galilee: Jonah, Nahum, Hosea, Elijah, and Elisha. This also has a reasonable discussion about Micah, Elijah, and Jonah being from Galilee. – Alex Strasser Jan 12 '19 at 21:28
  • That being said, I haven't seen an explicit link between the cities in the previous links or in your discussion and how we know those ciities are in Galilee. The links all seem to just claim that, say Moresh-Gath is in Galilee. Wikipedia and this Bible atlas don't mention Galilee at all, so how do we know those cities were in Galilee? I would just like to see explicit support. – Alex Strasser Jan 12 '19 at 21:30
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Their question is not just about whether a prophet can come from Galilee, but verse 42 gives more info about their reason for doubting Galilee as the source of the 'Christ'. The Christ should come from David's line and from Bethlehem (prophecy from Micah 5:2). Herod ordered the murder of all the boys in Bethlehem, so there would not be any men from Bethlehem around Jesus' age. Even though Herod died before Mary & Joseph returned from Egypt, Joseph still feared Herod's son, who was then ruling in Judea, and God warned Joseph to go to Galilee instead (Matthew 2:19-23). Joseph and Mary probably didn't broadcast that Jesus was really from Bethlehem because of their fear (and because of God's warnings).

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At issue here is not whether the Pharisees’ comment is technically correct – as the OP notes, it is easily proven false as a statement of fact. N.T. Wright’s word study of their particular verb and its possible, extended, theological associations is interesting but also a digression.

Rather, John is intent on showing that Jewish leaders, centered in Jerusalem and Judea, rejected Jesus, while Galileans and others accepted him. This dichotomy is also apparent in the Johannine symbolic use of geography generally, setting Galilee against Judea. John 7:52 presents the Pharisees as sneering and derisive, sarcastic, though not in the sense of ironic. Their comment is intended to bolster John’s negative portrayal of ‘the Jews’, and more specifically Jewish leaders, in contrast to Nicodemus who believed.

The intention of this verse, then, is not centered in its accuracy or falsity as a factual statement but in its contribution to John's larger narrative portrait of the Jewish opposition to the gospel (e.g. 4:1; 7:32; 8:13; 12:42).

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In all, I believe that if someone hates you so much, even if you swim in the river they would complain you spread dust on them. The authorities hate Jesus and wouldn't want to associate with him in anyway not to mention Galilee where they ignorantly believed nothing good could come out of. V52 shows clearly that they were against the truth only because they foolishly believed Jesus came to take over their authority and deny them of their worldly benefits. Prophet Jonah , Elisha, Hosea and others came from this city. It is unbelievable that in their long time in the study of the books. They still denounce the truth just because they didn't agree with Jesus even when Nicodemus tried to be positive of him they ignored him.

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It would seem the of context the Pharisees comments are about rejecting Jesus regardless of where he’s from.
Any negative comment that can be believed by those to whom they are speaking in order to get them on their side and deny Jesus as the Christ because it came from the experts , Pharisees would be the root intent.
Nicodemus became the voice of reason which was also rejected based on his being from Galilee.
This was pure bigotry.
Essentially John was showing not the Jews but the leaders of the religion as the cause for his need to return and offer himself up.
Jesus was about rejecting the law as it was applied w malicious ungodly like intent.
Mincing words when it becomes the hub around which we argue truth of Jesus as the Christ makes us no better than the Pharisees.
If the words are of God , then the understanding of them is of God also.
I suspect too that the Pharisees were no better than Pharaoh on this one.

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It's incomprehensible to believe that the prophets of Judah who had studied Scripture their whole lives would have made this mistake. Elijah, Micah and Joel plus three more prophets all lives and prophesied in Galilee. The mistake was engendered by a poor translation. Out of all the languages extant in the 1st century, only Aramaic carries no articles such as "a" or "the." Translating word for word often leads to lack of context and syntax. Given that, the translator had a 50-50 chance of getting it right. He didn't. He also didn't seem to understand the implication of his work. The passage should have read: "the prophet does not come out of Galilee," that is, the prophet (Messiah) Moses talked about that would come. Also, the same prophet the Pharisees asked John the Baptizer about when they asked him if he was Elijah, the prophet or the Messiah. The only logical explanation for this error is that the original passage was in Aramaic and later translated into Greek incorrectly. All the other languages (Hebrew, Greek, Latin) have articles which would have made the priests' comments abundantly clear. Aramaic primacy.

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