If someone quotes e.g. Leviticus 6:7, will this be the correct position no matter the language or translation?
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Yes, more or less. There are some words or phrases which will be shifted to the previous/next verse in certain translations.– Jas 3.1Dec 6, 2012 at 0:59
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1Awesome. I edited the question to clarify. (Don't worry about your English. It was close enough for me to understand.) I have an answer, but no time. I'll take a look again tomorrow.– Jon 'links in bio' EricsonDec 6, 2012 at 1:05
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To clarify even further: Lev 6:7 is just an example. I'm not interested in whether Lev 6:7 always will point to the same sentence, but merely if the divisions would be the same most of the times. Therefore I think Jas 3.1 has an answer.– citizenDec 6, 2012 at 1:12
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1As I neared the end of my answer, I noticed that there is a Wikipedia article on the subject. On the plus side, I learned a new word: "ascription".– Jon 'links in bio' EricsonDec 7, 2012 at 1:53
4 Answers
In general, yes...
As Affable Geek answered, the divisions predate the printing press but were not part of the original texts. There aren't that many publishers of Bibles and most of them use the same system that English translations have used since Langton. So if you go to a Spanish-language service anywhere around the world, you can find your place in the text. (Assuming you understand Spanish, of course.)
It seems likely that this is for convenience and because of the network effect. Since most tools of interpretation (dictionaries, commentaries, concordances, etc.) use the standard system, most people who purchase a Bible will expect to find it to be compatible to that system. A publisher would quickly go out of business if they tried to introduce a novel system.
with two exceptions.
The Tanakh
As H3br3wHamm3r81's answer notes that the Jewish Bible (what we call the Old Testament) uses a different system. Since Judaism has a separate apparatus of interpretation, Jewish publishers divide chapters and verses in slightly different places. It's not different enough to cause major problems, but we have experienced confusion over on Biblical Hermeneutics. One noticeable pattern is that Psalms in Jewish translations often make the short descriptive text (ascription) part or all of verse 1 in contrast to Christian translations. For this reason, I like to quote Bible passages or at least link to them rather than just include bare citations.
The Psalms
The earliest Greek translation of the Tanakh included a slightly different order of the Psalms then the Hebrew original. Since the standard system adheres to the Hebrew order, this is normally not a problem. But it's something to be aware of if you are talking Psalms across the Eastern/Western divide or if you are reading Catholic liturgy (which uses the Greek system for some reason).
As it turns out, Leviticus 6:7 is not the same between the Christian system and the Jewish system:
And the priest shall make atonement for him before the LORD, and he shall be forgiven for any of the things that one may do and thereby become guilty.”—Leviticus 6:7 (ESV)
And this is the law of the meal-offering: the sons of Aaron shall offer it before the LORD, in front of the altar.—Leviticus 6:7 (JPS)
It turns out the Jewish system puts what we call Leviticus 6:1-7 into the end of chapter 5 as verses 20 to 26.
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Note: (at least some) French Bibles have the same "off by one" difference in Psalms.– BenjolDec 7, 2012 at 14:11
No.
For example:
Psalms 88:5 in King James Version:
Free among the dead, like the slain that lie in the grave, whom thou rememberest no more: and they are cut off from thy hand.
Psalms 88:5 in Jewish Publication Society (based on versification in Masoretic text):
I am counted with them that go down into the pit; I am become as a man that hath no help.
Even some verses differ in NT according to which Greek manuscript you are reading from.
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4As noted, the Psalms are the main area of difference where the Septuagint and Masoretic separations differ. Ps. 9 (to v.20) and 10 in M. are one psalm (9) in S., Ps. 114 (to v.8) and 115 in M. are one (113) in S., Ps. 116 in M. is two (114:1-9,115) in S., Ps. 147 in M. is two (146:1-11,147) in S.– user3331Dec 6, 2012 at 12:40
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+1, I did not know about variations in NT. Also Septuagint has some additional--Deuterocanonical--text (whole books even) relative to the Masoretic.– user3331Dec 6, 2012 at 12:50
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@Paul A. Clayton: Versification differences would be due to missing verses altogether. But, now that I think of it, I think some Bibles just include the supposed spurious passages and just include footnotes indicating that they are not present in the Greek text that the English translation is based on. This preserves the normal versification after all. So, disregard my comment on NT.– user900Dec 6, 2012 at 17:17
Yes, generally, though not universally.
The most common versing scheme in use today goes back to Stephen Langton in the 1200s. Other popular schemes include one by Hugo of Saint Cher.
While definitely a respected theologian (he was an Archbishop!), his "sense"-based structure is by no means universal agreed upon. Indeed, there is an apocryphal tale underlying the seeming lack of any rhyme or reason in the structure that suggests Langton was riding his horse as he inserted the numbers. The story goes that when his horse's feet touched the ground, he inserted a verse, and when he fell off the horse, he inserted a chapter!
Other versification schemes exist, but his is the most common. Manuscripts that predate this convention are sometimes back-versed, and some translations have reversed the scripts, but most popular translations, such as the KJV, NIV, NASB, RSV, ESV, NLT, etc... all use Langton's schemes.
Indeed, the versification is so well received that as modern manuscripts cast doubt on the authenticity of some verses (see 1 John 5:7), many modern translations will omit the verse altogether, going directly from 6 to 8.
Internationally, those that choose to follow this pretty well received convention tend to follow it as well.
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1I think this is a overstatement of the case. It's actually pretty complicated. Several languages have common versification schemes, and others have significant variations in the common one.– CalebDec 6, 2012 at 23:15
No, Bible versification is not universal across all languages and versions. This answer supplements the answers previously given.
French and German Bibles, and no doubt some others, use a slightly different versification from what we find in English Bibles. This can create confusion when cross referencing between these languages. Here are some of the differences I have noticed:
- Psalm titles, which don't have a verse number in English Bibles, become verse one in French and German Bibles. Thus many of the Psalms in the latter have one more verse than what you find in English Bibles, and the specific verse references are off by one.
- Isaiah 8:23 in French and German Bibles is 9:1 in English.
- Jonah 1:17 in English Bibles is 2:1 in French and German.
- Malachi 4 in English Bibles is included at the end of Malachi 3 in French and German Bibles, thus Malachi in the the latter Bibles has only 3 chapters.
Note: These are just a few of the differences. No doubt a few others exist as well.