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And God said, Let there be light: and there was light -Genesis 1:3 KJV

The almighty God gets what he desires and what he wants is good indeed. I believe there's a ultimate goal for humanity (as a whole) to achieve and humanity will reach that point eventually. It's just the road and (not the destination) that bothers me.

The unbearable amount of suffering and grief that one experiences during his life is not fair, for example; when Gaza war started I saw a video clip of a dad taking his little daughter's severed body parts which was in a plastic bag to a ruined hospital, desperate, maybe he was hoping he can get his daughter back?

Humanity doesn't have a clue what he's doing, no one is born with a PhD, we all do terrible terrible mistakes and not many have the chance to learn why they should turn the other cheek.

So this thoughts always left me with this question;

  • Was it necessary to let humans go down this path? What important part are we going to play in this "scenario" of God's creation that made our poor souls worthy of suffering?

And no we did not choose the path of destruction and death, we went that way because we did not knew the ultimate consequences of our actions, If Adam TRULY knew that he's going to cast out of heaven or what not being in heaven is like, would he still have done it?

David, the God chosen prophet committed adultery, he had everything and yet the lust got him. How can one resist sin when David couldn't?

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  • Read the book of Job (it concludes that we are not able to logically or wisely understand what God understands, we can't question his kindness or justice even if our life is so painful that we want to die). Its irrational to try and question God or distrust him. We do not know what justice is. But we accuse him of injustice because we are fools. Then consider that God was born for us (for me, for you) to die and suffer that we might be secured into everlasting bliss. Mix this with faith and everything starts to become well. But faith, although the most precious bar of gold, is not easy.
    – Mike
    Apr 4 at 14:48

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The problem of the existence of evil and suffering, despite there being a benevolent and omnipotent God, has many answers.

Of course, there are the arguments that: Without the possibility of evil, humans would have no free will. However, if God is omnipotent, then surely He could alter the calculus of the universe so that humans could have free will, without the need of the existence of suffering. Other attempts to rationally solve the problem of evil also fall in the same hole: if God is omnipotent, then surely he could remove evil and defy logic anyway.

Instead, arguably the more successful solution is rather the fact that we, as humans, have a tremendously limited scope of wisdom and understanding compared to God, Who is omniscient. Our wisdom is infinitesimally small compared to God's, so small that it approaches zero. Therefore, we cannot really question His authority, His reasoning for why suffering and evil exists. All we really know is that His logic is sound and just. Ultimately, the answer to the problem of evil, is that there is no answer that we, as humans, could possibly comprehend.

To answer the question on, "How could one resist sin when David himself couldn't": Nobody is without sin. Nobody except Jesus Christ. While we definitely should try to resist it, in the end, Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross is what paved the way to salvation, so that even with our abundance of sin, we could still find eternal life and unity with God.

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    – agarza
    Apr 3 at 14:13
  • I agree with your basic point, basically that God knows best (the argument found in Job), however, it is bizarre that you think God's omnipotence implies possibility of the impossible, e.g. consider the following: "here is a rock so heavy that God can't move it". Isn't such a rock an impossibility? Thus, God's omnipotence does not remove the possibility of the impossible.
    – user65254
    Apr 3 at 17:05
  • @ElectronSurf The reason why we can't resist sin on our own is because of the doctrine of the fall. We humans are hardwired to do evil, it is the good that is unnatural to us, however, grace from God gives us power over temptation and from the bondage to sin that ensues.
    – user65254
    Apr 3 at 17:09
  • We only have logic and truth in this world because it emanates out form God. In fact these are elements of the logos, a part of God's very essence that is revealed to humanity, remember, it is satan who is the father of lies, therefore God does not flirt with falsehood and irrationality. Just because man thinks something impossible, doesn't mean that it is in principle impossible. That which is in principle impossible has no part with God, e.g. it is impossible in principle impossible that God is evil; no amount of power can change that.
    – user65254
    Apr 3 at 17:13
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Excellent question, this question is the subject of the field of theological studies known as theodicy, or the "problem of evil". I suppose that one might question whether or not God was justified in his creation of humanity, however, that is another question for another day. If on the other hand, one will assume that God was justified in creating humanity in the first place, consider the following.

It is true God's attributes would allow for him to make everything well for everyone, at each point in our lives, God could step in and set things aright before even they go wrong. However, would humanity be free in this context? Is not free will the greatest gift that can be bestowed upon sentient beings created in the image of God? Indeed, if everyone always acted correctly then there would be no war or greed and people would not make mistakes that rob them of the good life, however, it would not be the result of moral free agency, humans would be automata. When someone makes the right choice when they could have made the wrong choice, their action can be construed as righteousness. If one does right action only be coercion, it is because of no good thing or attribute of their own. However the price we pay for the tremendous gift of free will, to be a moral free agent, indeed to be like God; is the suffering we see all around us.

Thus one must ask themselves: is it better to have the abolition of suffering and a mere robotic existence, or is it better to be free and live in the hope that the caseation of human suffering and a free will are at least theoretically possible should humanity choose the good, i.e. that they would choose God.

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  • While I fully understand your point of view, I have to disagree with your conclusion. We could have kept our free will -with- the added/induced maybe some divine knowledge instead of entering the world and each start from zero. that way if someone made a mistake, it was his own fault not the lack of knowledge. again with the David example in the question it seems that we are bond to make mistake and consequently suffer. Apr 1 at 19:36
  • @ElectronSurf Knowledge does not prevent people from doing wrong, e.g. people know that drug use is bad for them, and yet the do it anyway, nay it will take more than knowledge to restrain people from self destruction.
    – user65254
    Apr 1 at 20:11
  • @ElectronSurf In fact, this is why the Christian tradition places so much emphasis on salvation through faith as opposed to knowledge (Gk. gnosis). The early gnostic sects sought to reach salvation through initiation in the gnostic mysteries, in this sense, it is knowledge that saves, a position totally antithetical to Christian thought.
    – user65254
    Apr 1 at 20:13

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