Timeline for According to Luther, does guilt consciousness or guilt feeling comes from Satan?
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| Jul 23, 2023 at 15:07 | comment | added | Michael16 | You should be more direct & clear in writing. This means you assume that Luther's guilt was misconceived or false when, not real, in other words the cause of his guilt was not sin. In the same way, he teaches Jerome to ignore and snub it as satan's deception, however, in the letter we only see the mention of drinking and some other things jesting, etc. We are to assume that he teaches that these too are not sins. In other quotes he also encouraged to sin more; so we assume that he taught that believers are not guilty of sin; I dont think his view implies God would ever convict n condemn him. | |
| Jul 23, 2023 at 12:50 | comment | added | Anne | @Michael16 My answer dealt with the Q via 2 points: "what the Devil says to Luther is only what one says to oneself in moments of introspection, and, what is still more significant, only the minor difficulties were referred to the Devil. In all the major encounters, God himself was the assailant." And, "His imagination knew no bounds in how to thwart Satan's attempts to inflict a guilty conscience on that which had been cleansed by God."I thought that made the answer self-evident. God had cleansed his conscience via forgiveness but God would rebuke him when chastisement was due. | |
| Jul 23, 2023 at 8:54 | comment | added | Michael16 | You didnt answer the question: Did he believe guilt and or conscience comes from the devil? Is it to be understood as satanic deception? His solution seems to be that one needs to kill and suppress or rid of the guilt conscience altogether, bec it's satans temptation; in other words, the concept of sin has been finished. He didnt deny that you are not committing sins so that your guilt is illusory, but he argued that guilt comes from satan. | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 17:43 | comment | added | Anne | @Michael16 Anyone who thinks Luther was "obsessed with the devil all the time" clearly has not studied the writings of Luther. His experience of God's severity with him reflects the experiences of all the saints, both O.T., N.T. and to this very day. Luther knew "the fear of the Lord", which is the beginning of wisdom. | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 17:25 | comment | added | Michael16 | Very intriguing quote. I hope to read all about his writings about the devil, who seems to be his best friend, and with whom he was obsessed with all the time. God was his assailant. He still managed to become a leader of a great reformation. | |
| Jul 22, 2023 at 16:50 | history | answered | Anne | CC BY-SA 4.0 |