Timeline for According to non-inerrantist Christians, what are the strongest arguments against the inerrancy of the Protestant Bible?
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Oct 12, 2022 at 16:19 | comment | added | user50422 | @OneGodtheFather - You inspired me to ask this question: christianity.stackexchange.com/q/92990/50422 | |
Oct 12, 2022 at 15:26 | comment | added | Only True God | @SpiritRealmInvestigator Sure. Or look at a subset of the question - to what extent are claims by Jesus in the NT true or useful? To an extent, your answer to that will depend upon your assessment of Jesus' authority (and of course this goes both ways - the extent to which you judge something to be true or useful will increase your assessment of that person or thing's authority). | |
Oct 12, 2022 at 6:05 | comment | added | user50422 | @OneGodtheFather - I guess it depends on the claims made by the book. What if a book makes claims that seem to contradict mainstream scientific theories? | |
Oct 12, 2022 at 4:29 | comment | added | Only True God | @SpiritRealmInvestigator How do you do that with any book? | |
Oct 11, 2022 at 22:15 | comment | added | user50422 | @OneGodtheFather - How do we distinguish the parts that are "true or useful" from the parts that have errors? | |
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Oct 11, 2022 at 17:08 | comment | added | Only True God | Don't have time to do this, but as someone who is open to inerrantism being right but doesn't currently hold to it, I would say this starts by shifting the onus of proof. Why would anyone hold such a view about a text written by human hands?, even if divinely inspired. Instead, offer an alternative, in which trust in the texts is built up out of true or useful statements within the texts. Because I think the main argument for inerrancy is a (fallacious) all-or-nothing idea - either you have to trust it all, or can't trust any. | |
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Oct 7, 2022 at 15:50 | comment | added | Ray Butterworth | I think the question is asking for examples of scripture that directly contradict the historical record (excluding supernatural events and text that can be attributed to copying errors). For instance, if the historical record showed that Pilate was the Roman governor from AD 46 through 56, and that during the early 30s Sailer was actually the governor, then clearly this would contradict the Biblical record. | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 15:36 | comment | added | user50422 | @NigelJ - Facts are facts, regardless of the specific adjective you want to place before them. Regarding the charge of asking for opinions, that's your personal opinion :-) | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 13:51 | comment | added | Nigel J | So, you are expecting those who believe that scripture is 'errant' to give 'strong argument' based on their own opinion of the facts conveyed within scripture. Will these be . . . . . Historical facts ? Theological facts ? Sociological 'facts' ? Philosophical 'facts' ? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 13:39 | comment | added | user50422 | @NigelJ - See the newly added addendum. | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 13:38 | history | edited | user50422 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 7, 2022 at 13:20 | comment | added | Nigel J | . . . . but how does one know what is an 'error' ? Compared to what ? What sort of 'error' are you talking about ? Copyist error ? Theological error ? And who can prove what is an error or not ? None of this is clear. The question needs more clarity, detail and explanation. | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 13:16 | comment | added | user50422 | @NigelJ - Read the question again. I explicitly asked according to non-inerrantist Christians, what are the strongest arguments for the belief that at least one of these 66 books contains at least one error?. Just one error is sufficient to falsify inerrancy. | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 12:41 | comment | added | Nigel J | Do you mean that the translation contains an error ? Or do you mean that (say) one, or two, (or several) manuscripts contain copyist errors ? Or are you asking if all the manuscripts and fragments of a particular book are all erroneous. I am completely uncertain as to what you are trying to arrive at, here. The accuracy of the text is arrived at by the science of Textual Criticism which gathers 5,500 manuscripts, 196,000 Patristic Citations, many 'versions' (translations) and a multitude of Lectionary Quotations. Are all of them to be deemed 'errant' ? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 9:03 | comment | added | user50422 | @LukeHill - I think it is as opinion-based as any of those other questions, so you would have to vote to close them all in order to remain consistent. I also think that determining whether a question is opinion-based is opinion-based. Feel free to continue this discussion on meta. | |
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Oct 7, 2022 at 5:11 | comment | added | Luke Hill | @SRI I don’t see how failure to close those previous questions changes anything I said. Do you not think the question is Opinion based? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 3:31 | comment | added | user50422 | @LukeHill - Feel free to vote to close this, this, this, this, etc. | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 3:28 | comment | added | Luke Hill | @SRI not to be a pain in the butt, but isn't "strongest" a very subjective opinion? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 3:20 | comment | added | user50422 | @LukeHill - Let's raise the bar a little bit, see the last edit. | |
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Oct 7, 2022 at 3:14 | comment | added | Luke Hill | By virtue of having read the Bible and being a faithful Catholic, I am an inerrantist. I also believe this view is consistent with scholarship and history. However, I wanted clarification on exactly what you expected for in an answer. Would you like me to go to websites like godhatesshrimp.com and copy paste their arguments? Or would you like me to give a broad overview of arguments used? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 3:10 | comment | added | user50422 | @LukeHill - I take it that you are not a Biblical inerrantist? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 3:07 | comment | added | Luke Hill | One only needs to google "Bible contradictions" or "Biblical Errors" to pull up a numerous amount of "errors" or "contradictions" that we are told go against the doctrine of inerrancy. What exactly are you looking for in an answer? | |
Oct 7, 2022 at 0:27 | history | asked | user50422 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |