Timeline for According to Catholicism, how can the Holy Spirit proceed from the Father and the Son if it is God?
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Jun 5, 2022 at 22:59 | comment | added | eques | You are conflating procession -- which occurred from all eternity -- with mission and the act of God (w/ appropriations) which unfold in time. Procession of the Holy Spirit has nothing directly to do with creation or Adam | |
Jun 5, 2022 at 18:56 | comment | added | jong ricafort | @eques The Father breath out the Holy Spirit to sanctify Adam, to anoint Adam as High Priest of Humanity and to give him the gifts of the Holy Spirit like all the Apostles/Bishops received in the Upper Room and at their consecration. The Spirit that was breath upon is a procession, not just a mere breathing. And Jesus showed, that He can also breath out the Holy Spirit after His resurrection, to restore Divine Life, like what the Father had done to Adam, giving life to his soul. | |
Jun 4, 2022 at 21:17 | comment | added | eques | How does that add anything? The entire premise of appropriations it that it's ascribing some aspect of the Divinity to a particular Person because it emphases some property of that Person. They are not exclusive but usual. In any case, the fact that creation is sometimes appropriated to the Holy Spirit does not mean that procession of the Holy Spirit is creation | |
Jun 4, 2022 at 11:23 | comment | added | jong ricafort | @Veni Creator Spiritus | |
May 27, 2022 at 23:44 | comment | added | eques | I never said He was. I said that the procession of the Holy Spirit is something eternal in contrast to the creation of Adam which is not a procession and occurs in time. Creation is also appropriated to the Father, not the Holy Spirit. | |
May 27, 2022 at 22:45 | comment | added | jong ricafort | @equesvGod is not subject to time. | |
May 27, 2022 at 14:24 | comment | added | eques | The Holy Spirit proceeds once from all eternity from the Father and the Son as Augustine and Aquinas teaches. | |
May 27, 2022 at 14:24 | comment | added | eques | The breathing? That's not a procession. Procession has a specific meaning in theology and more so it is far broader than creation. The procession of the Holy Spirit isn't the creation of Adam. | |
May 27, 2022 at 8:45 | comment | added | jong ricafort | @eques The "breathing"...got it? | |
May 19, 2022 at 12:45 | comment | added | eques | The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, but the act of creating Adam is not a procession of the Holy Spirit | |
May 18, 2022 at 23:16 | comment | added | jong ricafort | @eques What do you call the breathing out of the Holy Spirit from both Jesus and the Father, if not procession? | |
May 17, 2022 at 20:58 | comment | added | eques | Most of this doesn't answer the question of what procession means in regards the divine persons, especially since God breathing into Adam at his creation is not a procession in the same sense (or at all). | |
May 16, 2022 at 21:46 | history | answered | jong ricafort | CC BY-SA 4.0 |