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Those who purport the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation, which asserts that the wicked do not physically die at the final judgment, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity while in a physical body. However, as I point out in my question here, this is an inconsistent position. It is very clear from scripture that humans do not have eternal life in and of themselves, but only God and Jesus do. As a result, there is an unavoidable, inescapable consequence of being separated from their presence, i.e. physical death. This fact is made plainest in scripture in Genesis 3. Being banished from the garden, where God's presence was, meant the inevitable demise of Adam and Eve. I see ECT/ECS proponents point to scriptures like 2 Thessalonians 1:9 all the time, particularly to versions of the passage found in the NIV, NLT, and ISV, assuming that it supports their position.

It is not an overstatement to say that the validity of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation hinges on whether or not you can prove the unrighteous are resurrected in immortal, incorruptible bodies. If one cannot do this Biblically, there is essentially no basis whatsoever for the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation. Everything reduces to this question;

NOTE: This question is directed towards those who purport the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation, which asserts that the wicked do not physically die at the final judgment, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity while in a physical body.

Those who purport the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation, which asserts that the wicked do not physically die at the final judgment, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity while physically alive. However, as I point out in my question here, this is an inconsistent position. It is very clear from scripture that humans do not have eternal life in and of themselves, but only God and Jesus do. As a result, there is an unavoidable, inescapable consequence of being separated from their presence, i.e. physical death. This fact is made plainest in scripture in Genesis 3. Being banished from the garden, where God's presence was, meant the inevitable demise of Adam and Eve. I see ECT/ECS proponents point to scriptures like 2 Thessalonians 1:9 all the time, particularly to versions of the passage found in the NIV, NLT, and ISV, assuming that it supports their position.

It is not an overstatement to say that the validity of the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation hinges on whether or not you can prove the unrighteous are resurrected in immortal, incorruptible bodies. If one cannot do this Biblically, there is essentially no basis whatsoever for the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation. Everything reduces to this question;

NOTE: This question is directed towards those who purport the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation, which asserts that the wicked do not physically die at the final judgment, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity while physically alive.

Those who purport the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation assert that the wicked do not physically die, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity. However, as I point out in my question here, this is an inconsistent position. It is very clear from scripture that humans do not have eternal life in and of themselves, but only God and Jesus do. As a result, there is an unavoidable, inescapable consequence of being separated from their presence, i.e. physical death. This fact is made plainest in scripture in Genesis 3. Being banished from the garden, where God's presence was, meant the inevitable demise of Adam and Eve. I see ECT/ECS proponents point to scriptures like 2 Thessalonians 1:9 all the time, particularly to versions of the passage found in the NIV, NLT, and ISV, assuming that it supports their position.

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Those who purport the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation, which asserts that the wicked do not physically die at the final judgment, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity while in a physical body. However, as I point out in my question here, this is an inconsistent position. It is very clear from scripture that humans do not have eternal life in and of themselves, but only God and Jesus do. As a result, there is an unavoidable, inescapable consequence of being separated from their presence, i.e. physical death. This fact is made plainest in scripture in Genesis 3. Being banished from the garden, where God's presence was, meant the inevitable demise of Adam and Eve. I see ECT/ECS proponents point to scriptures like 2 Thessalonians 1:9 all the time, particularly to versions of the passage found in the NIV, NLT, and ISV, assuming that it supports their position.

NOTE: This question is directed towards those who purport the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation, which asserts that the wicked do not physically die at the final judgment, but are instead consciously separated from the presence of God for eternity while in a physical body.

It is not an overstatement to say that the validity of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation hinges on whether or not you can prove the unrighteous are resurrected in immortal, incorruptible bodies. If one cannot do this Biblically, there is essentially no basis whatsoever for the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation. Hence my question;

• What is the Biblical basis for the notion that the wicked are resurrected in immortal bodies just like the righteous?

It is not an overstatement to say that the validity of the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation hinges on whether or not you can prove the unrighteous are resurrected in immortal, incorruptible bodies. If one cannot do this Biblically, there is essentially no basis whatsoever for the doctrine of eternal conscious torment/separation. Everything reduces to this question;

• What is the Biblical basis for the notion that the wicked are resurrected in immortal bodies just as the righteous are?