Timeline for Does Calvinism recognize that it has God working at cross purposes to His stated desire?
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| Aug 8, 2021 at 16:59 | comment | added | Nigel J | @MikeBorden . . . . . . or it could be retrospective. | |
| Aug 8, 2021 at 15:54 | comment | added | Mike Borden | Why would God desire the ones who have already repented to come to repentance? In this understanding the "us-ward" has to actually reference, not current believers but future believers...those yet to repent. | |
| Aug 8, 2021 at 14:22 | comment | added | Nigel J | I cannot make it plainer @MikeBorden . How you manage to squeeze 'scoffers' who Peter says are 'willingly ignorant' into the 'context' of 'beloved' (3:1 and 3:14) is beyond my capability to understand, brother. Repentance is a gift. It is given. And his gifts and calling are without (his own) repentance and are sure. Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord (and his household) but the whole of the rest of that world perished. Trust in the Lord, and receive his gifts. As for others, their destiny is determined. | |
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| Aug 8, 2021 at 12:59 | comment | added | Mike Borden | I agree with you that election is a very important, perhaps critical doctrine, given it's prolific mention in Scripture. Is it not possible for the "to us-ward" of v. 9 to be inclusive of all, since the immediate context includes the scoffers that will come in the last days. Additionally, verse 9 says God desires all (of the "us") to come to repentance. If "to us-ward" is only incorporating believers this desire seems strange since believers have already come to repentance. | |
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| Aug 7, 2021 at 8:00 | history | answered | Nigel J | CC BY-SA 4.0 |