Timeline for Why does God punish us for sin
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| Apr 5, 2021 at 20:55 | comment | added | Adam | This is going to seem very simplistic however I believe it worth thinking about...is a person who does not actively engage in, or have any interest in, or support, be considered a sporting club (say football for example)? Using that illustration, if one. Has no interest in, does not participate in, nor actively supports the "Christianity club", how then could one possibly be considered a member and therefore share in its benefits? Atheists are great at throwing this question you have raised out there. | |
| Apr 3, 2021 at 11:47 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @CalebDodorico If God had not created us with an actual ability to choose would we truly be able to love Him? Perhaps the only other options were to pre-program us or not create at all. I have to assume that the current creation was worth the cost. When He finished creating and called it "very good" He was very aware that the Fall was immanent. | |
| Apr 3, 2021 at 11:36 | comment | added | Mike Borden | @AnthonyBurg And yet he appears in God's presence, a lamb as though it had been slain. It is likely that God has always seen His Son this way. If trinitarianism is true, the Son has always had this same awareness. "For this hour I came into the world." Thus the sacrifice is magnified, the grace is magnified, and also the rejection of same. | |
| Apr 3, 2021 at 9:59 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | @MikeBorden Yes sir, I understand that, or at least, I grasp the concept. What I struggle with is how does a God of perfect love allow that to happen in the first place? Thanks to you guys and God's patience, I am coming around to a measure of peace with my limited understanding. | |
| Apr 3, 2021 at 9:55 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | @Constantthin, thank you. that belief in salvation is new to me. | |
| Apr 2, 2021 at 23:44 | comment | added | Only True God | @MikeBorden Except Jesus suffered for approx. 1 day and after he died was resurrected and now is at the right hand of the Father. It seems eternal punishment is worse than this! | |
| Apr 2, 2021 at 12:27 | comment | added | Mike Borden | Caleb, He does it by sending His only begotten Son. God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners Christ died for us. This Son was offered before the foundation of the world. In God's economy (He knows the end from the beginning) his Son was slain for the humanity that **would go wrong" and then God created. We cannot magnify this love enough. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 23:33 | comment | added | Constantthin | According to the Bible (ultimate) salvation is a race. Only a chosen number gets in. When that number is filled the door gets closed. This proves that heaven is a limited place and most likely a planet. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 17:58 | answer | added | Only True God | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 16:44 | comment | added | Only True God | I don't take that as rude - I welcome pushback. However, the claim is true ("some Christians hold to the possibility of universal salvation"). You certainly are welcome to think that's Biblically false. Ty for the specific reference. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 16:27 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | @AnthonyBurg, your first comment is biblically false. Not trying to be rude just not sure how else to say it. The second question hrown into the lake of fire (thrown in a pit) for eternity (leaving him there)" Do you have specific verses that you think say this? Revelations 20:11-15 | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 16:26 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | @AdamHeeg. Thank you sir. Pride may be my entire issue I'm not sure. But, I'm not certain that answers my question. I apologize if I worded it in a way that caused confusion. But essentially if God is perfect love then how does perfect love allow for the object of your love allow for eternal punishment? | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 16:20 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | @MikeBorden first of all sorry, but I don't know how to tag people. We were kicked out when Adam and Eve ate the apple. In an effort to keep my question concise I tried to keep the detail compressed. And there are rules to follow. The Bible repeatedly says if you don't believe and follow Jesus the you will not enter heaven. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 12:32 | comment | added | workerjoe | Another way of looking at it, which comes up frequently in C.S. Lewis, is that sin is your willful choice not to walk with God. If Heaven is God's presence, and Hell is complete separation from God, then by sinning you are telling God you don't want to be with Him, i.e., expressing a preference for Hell. Would you have God disregard your free choice? If this version of things is at all true, then the lesson should be to always try to move toward God (away from sin) -- make it clear that you want to be in Heaven, and He'll know that's your preference. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 5:34 | comment | added | Only True God | "thrown into the lake of fire (thrown in a pit) for eternity (leaving him there)" Do you have specific verses that you think say this? Would help with forming an answer. | |
| Apr 1, 2021 at 5:34 | comment | added | Only True God | Some Christians hold to the possibility of universal salvation. Rob Bell is one. | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 22:38 | answer | added | Paul Chernoch | timeline score: 3 | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 11:44 | comment | added | Adam Heeg | @CalebDodorico One, remember that analogies break down after their main point. Don't over think the analogy. Two, God's rules aren't a way to make your life less enjoyable. They are how we maximize the life we've been given. It's hard to see when we're a slave to a sin or pride. Pride is the key word, as rejecting the creators free gift of salvation is a pride issue. He is literally opening the gates of heaven for anyone who calls on the name of Jesus sincerely. As the creator it is up to Him what to do with those He created. | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 11:32 | comment | added | Mike Borden | The sin that separates us from God is a disposition and that disposition causes sinful actions. We do not do things that get us "kicked out"...we are already "kicked out". Jesus came to reconcile us to God, to redeem us from the condemnation we are already under. There is no game to play and no rules to follow. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will no longer be under condemnation. God will then be a Father to you. | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 1:31 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | A survey of answers is preferable | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 0:00 | comment | added | Only True God | Are you asking for a survey of answers in Christianity to this question? | |
| Mar 31, 2021 at 0:00 | comment | added | Caleb Dodorico | No there is not. Christianity in general | |
| Mar 30, 2021 at 23:02 | comment | added | Only True God | Do you have a particular denomination you are looking for an answer to this question from? | |
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