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Jul 28, 2014 at 21:31 comment added svidgen @fredsbend Contraception-free intercourse, even where NFP is involved, is still "ordered" towards procreation: Neither the male, nor the female biology, nor the act itself is altered or inhibited. Each is "operating" in its natural state. Put another way, the persons and the act are the same act regardless of whether the act is fertile at that time. Contraception changes one of the the persons or the act. Also oft-noted, NFP demands sexual discipline; contraception generally serves a lack thereof.
Jul 26, 2014 at 23:13 history edited Affable Geek CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 23, 2014 at 23:52 comment added Affable Geek @FMShyanguya That was mostly a retort to Narnian's suggestion about abstinence
Jul 23, 2014 at 21:03 history edited Affable Geek CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 23, 2014 at 21:00 comment added Matt Gutting @fredsbend That however is matter for another question, or a chat exchange; not for a series of comments.
Jul 23, 2014 at 21:00 comment added Matt Gutting @fredsbend That's the whole reasoning against artificial contraception: that it prevents the marriage from being, to the greatest extent possible, a reflection of what love between a man and a woman can and should be.
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:58 history edited Affable Geek CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 23, 2014 at 20:58 comment added user3961 @MattGutting So the verdict against condoms is marital advice, not family planing related?
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:57 comment added Matt Gutting @fredsbend, from one of the links above: "When married couples deliberately act to suppress fertility, however, sexual intercourse is no longer fully marital intercourse. It is something less powerful and intimate, something more 'casual.' Suppressing fertility by using contraception denies part of the inherent meaning of married sexuality and does harm to the couple’s unity."
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:56 comment added Affable Geek @fredsbend Now that is a good question...
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Jul 23, 2014 at 20:54 comment added user13992 AffableGeek Great Answer! I guess the shock was people not counting the methods the church allows as 'birth control' (i.e. artificial birth control ...)
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:53 comment added user3961 So what's the deal against condoms then? Those prevent conception; they do not allow it then kill the new life.
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:53 history edited Affable Geek CC BY-SA 3.0
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Jul 23, 2014 at 20:52 comment added user13992 @Narnian Abstinence! Nice!
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:48 comment added Affable Geek Follow the links I'm putting in! It's the US Council of Bishops...
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:48 comment added user13992 @AffableGeek Any chance to enhance with say references to CCC and other Church document?
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:47 comment added Narnian I'm pretty sure they support abstinence as well...
Jul 23, 2014 at 20:46 history answered Affable Geek CC BY-SA 3.0